The Cover Project
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: AppleQueso on October 21, 2008, 01:54:18 AM
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To those who have used them, around how much does Kinko's charge to print covers?
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To those who have used them, around how much does Kinko's charge to print covers?
Kinkos:
8.5 x 11 = $.49 (most covers won't fit on this, only psp)
11 x 17 = $.99
i would personally recommend office max though, i have been to both.
Office Max:
(these numbers may be different though, i have a membership card)
8.5 x 11 = $.39
11 x 17 = $.69
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Its kind of strange.. But I have an Epson Stylus CX 8400 that allows me to print DVD covers on 8.5 X 11 paper. This is the only printer I have ever had that allows me to do this. If you take out the insert from a DVD case and transpose it on a 8.5 X 11 sheet of paper .. you will see that it should fit fine. The problem is that most printer wont allow you to print so close to the edge. This printer does .. It is great. I am sure that it could also print UGC inserts as well. I bought mine for about $69.95 at Target. The ink is cheap enough, throw in some nice brochure paper and you are ready to print most if not all covers on the 8.5 X 11 paper of your choice. It might be more cost effective.
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It might be more cost effective.
that could be true in the long run but i've already spent ~$100 on printing covers so its all down hill from here :)
good find on the printer though, printers that print to the edge are uncommon.
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@csvo2000: Maybe in the future it will be more cost effective, but seeing as how I only need around 10-15 covers max printed at the moment, I'd say it's not.
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To those who have used them, around how much does Kinko's charge to print covers?
Kinkos:
8.5 x 11 = $.49 (most covers won't fit on this, only psp)
11 x 17 = $.99
i would personally recommend office max though, i have been to both.
Office Max:
(these numbers may be different though, i have a membership card)
8.5 x 11 = $.39
11 x 17 = $.69
I get my covers printed at Staples and the covers fit fine on 8.5 x 11 if you print in landscape mode. Also if you sign up for the Staples reward card (free) you get 10% back for every purchase made at the end of each quarter. I didn't know about Office Max having a cheaper price and will surely check them out.
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Yeah, I can't recommend Staples and 8.5 x 11's enough (for DS inserts, at least).
Second time I went to Kinko's, they said they couldn't sell 'em because they're copyrighted material. Just be aware.
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You guys must be lucky. Everytime I tried going to staples they told me they wouldn't sell me printed covers. This was before I found a good supplier for paper, so I just print them off myself.
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Yeah, I can't recommend Staples and 8.5 x 11's enough (for DS inserts, at least).
Second time I went to Kinko's, they said they couldn't sell 'em because they're copyrighted material. Just be aware.
That's the only thing keeping me from trying Kinkos, Staples, Office Max or any other places.
Anyone who's looked at my pics of the games in UGCs might notice it doesn't fit perfectly.
Its a little smaller than it should be, but I do it free from my work when the front office is empty....
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There's a local scrapbooking store just down the street from my house that I use, they charge a dollar a cover and the end result always looks nice :)
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Another question, since I'll likely be going there tomorrow: How are the self service kiosks, and is there a way to pay in cash?
If they try and hassle me claiming it's "copyright infringement" I'll simply let them in on a little facet of copyright law known as "fair use".
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I go to Kinko's too, the 11x17 glossy finish paper is the closest I have found to DVD cover paper. I have a couple friends who work there so they take care of me.
I laminated my 11sq. foot, 2 Metal Gear Solid 4 posters of Snake and Raiden. $3/sq. foot, that jankz cost me about $63. But well worth it.
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Another question, since I'll likely be going there tomorrow: How are the self service kiosks, and is there a way to pay in cash?
If they try and hassle me claiming it's "copyright infringement" I'll simply let them in on a little facet of copyright law known as "fair use".
"Fair Use" goes out the window when someone's making money on it. In this case, Kinko's is selling you the copyrighted product.
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Another question, since I'll likely be going there tomorrow: How are the self service kiosks, and is there a way to pay in cash?
If they try and hassle me claiming it's "copyright infringement" I'll simply let them in on a little facet of copyright law known as "fair use".
"Fair Use" goes out the window when someone's making money on it. In this case, Kinko's is selling you the copyrighted product.
Kinko's provides a service, not a product. I'm sure that would factor into it somehow.
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Another question, since I'll likely be going there tomorrow: How are the self service kiosks, and is there a way to pay in cash?
If they try and hassle me claiming it's "copyright infringement" I'll simply let them in on a little facet of copyright law known as "fair use".
"Fair Use" goes out the window when someone's making money on it. In this case, Kinko's is selling you the copyrighted product.
Kinko's provides a service, not a product. I'm sure that would factor into it somehow.
If they say no, you won't be able to budge them. They are just following the rules of their "national chain" job.
Even if you are right they don't want to loose their job (better safe than sorry theory).
You would have to convince their corporate (good luck even talking to a higher up) to get any results.
thats why i say go to office max. it less exspensive, they cut it for you and if you are not happy with the print they will reprint it free of charge untill you are satisfied.
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Well here's hoping I can make due with the self service kiosks so I can avoid the hassle of dealing with that altogether.
Though I have read that many of the locations now don't care what you print so long as you sign a legal waiver for "copyrighted" stuff.
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Kinko's provides a service, not a product. I'm sure that would factor into it somehow.
Think of it this way - could you go into a recording studio and have them dub 50 copies of a copyrighted CD for you? No - the money is directly being made off someone else's copyrighted material.
And I wouldn't bother with the signed waiver. If you can't get by with it without the waiver, just shrug your shoulders and try somewhere else.
The problem with a waiver is that you're basically saying that you are the copyright holder or that you have permission from the copyright holder - neither of which is the case (although, I suppose, on some custom covers, there could be some interesting aspects regarding derivative works, etc...). If something was to *ever* come up in regards to the situation (unlikely, I know, but...) you'd still be on the hook for the legal charges for illegally reproducing copyrighted material, but now you can add fraud to those charges.
Just go in there, print them and see what happens. I printed covers there twice with no problems before I ran into the Copyright issue. Then I went to Staples and never looked back.
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Well I used the self service station there today, didn't have any trouble with copyrights.
Unfortunately though, they were empty on legal sized paper, and printed everything on letter size. It's not a huge problem, but there's a small area (like less than 1/4") on the front side trimmed off of all my covers.
It's okay though, I was mainly just excited to actually have them printed. I'll go back and re-print them at a later date sometime.
As for that legal thing, I seriously doubt that any company would sue somebody for copying ONE cover obviously intended for personal, non-commercial use. And by "seriously doubt" I mean I'd sooner expect to be held at gunpoint by a talking dog.
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I *did* say it was unlikely. ;)
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I've printed all of my covers for 28mm cases at Kinko's, and since running into a snag on my own printer have started printing my 14mm and DS cases there as well.
Always at a self-service machine (the pro one, 'cause it's the only one with Adobe PS and the times I've tried to print outside of Photoshop, the results weren't correct) -- actually the first time I tried to have them print them, but the guy couldn't figure out how to print in landscape on legal paper, so he let me try (on their setup, behind the counter) and then I got yelled at by a different Kinko's employee for being behind the counter, and he told me to go to the self service machines.
Only problem with the self service machines (and specifically the pro ones) is, in addition to paying $.99 a color print (same price for regular or legal paper), you also pay a per minute price (and it's double on the pro machines from the regular ones).
A tip if you'd like to avoid the Kinko's staff peeking over your shoulder all the time; if you have a 24hour Kinkos, go in around 11 on a Thursday, Friday or Saturday night and it's usually dead iwth 1 employee working (who's typically working on overnight orders that need to be finished for early morning pickup and thus will ask if you need help and then leave ya alone). If you go in during busier hours, they've got more staff and usually have at least 1 staff who walks around to "assist" (or in the one case I went at 5:30pm on a monday... annoy the hell out of you by treating you like an idiot who has no idea whatsoever of what your doing).
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Yeah, I went in later in the evening, sometime around 7 or so. It was pretty hassle free using the self service machines, and no-one there seemed to bother me.
Next time I go I just hope they actually have legal sized paper in stock.
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having never been to a kinko's or such like, I don't know if they can print all formats.
but if they can print from powerpoint - a quick tip for you is to import all the covers into a powerpoint presentation and then just print 1 file.
Certainly would make it quicker at your self service kiosk. I do this to print at work, as i don't have access to photoshop there.
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It's so strange to me that so many ppl have problems printing DVD covers at these stores using letter sized paper. All you have to do is put the image in landscape mode while making sure to keep the same aspect ratio. When I print it out I do it from the windows image viewer print preview and check off "high quality". The covers fit fine on letter sized paper with like about an inch on top/bottom and about a millimeter or so on each side.
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It's so strange to me that so many ppl have problems printing DVD covers at these stores using letter sized paper. All you have to do is put the image in landscape mode while making sure to keep the same aspect ratio. When I print it out I do it from the windows image viewer print preview and check off "high quality". The covers fit fine on letter sized paper with like about an inch on top/bottom and about a millimeter or so on each side.
margins bub. Some printers are really picky about them. If they could print margin less then it wouldn't be a problem at all.
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"Bub", LOL. :D :-*
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Here are some pics from my crappy old digicam of what the covers look like when I print them out on regular letter sized paper doing what I do:
(http://i37.tinypic.com/33e3kte.jpg)
(http://i38.tinypic.com/bjfxfm.jpg)
(http://i36.tinypic.com/1zlvsdk.jpg)
Notice the aspect ratios are fine without margins going over the paper at all. You just make sure to uncheck "fit picture to frame" in landscape mode in windows picture viewer's print preview and then print.