Author Topic: TSOLfan's Game Room(s)  (Read 163602 times)

January 01, 2011, 07:44:58 PM
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I hate you!

I agree with Vt102 on this one, I hate you too!!  I think we should all join the "We hate TSOLfan" group indefinantly!!

But through all my hatred, very very very awesome man.  Looks amazing =D

Well my hate comes form sheer jealousy and admiration. LOL
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January 02, 2011, 09:41:19 AM
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Thanks for all compliments and admiration hate :D

Not to forget a life-sized Jack Skellington. Fits the style of your house perfectly :)

Well, Yoda needed a friend :)



I couldnt help but notice you have the box for Lagoon for the SNES! We dont have that one the site yet and I happen to need it too aswell as others. Any chance you could scan that for me sometime? 600dpi would be really appreciated for that one if possible! :)

I'll get that scanned today for you.  I had spot checked my SNES collection against the approved covers and raw scans, and didn't see anything obvious that was missing, hence why I didn't call out what I had in my scan thread.  I'll update the scan thread with a full list of available NTSC-U SNES games I have on hand that I can scan, but offhand, checking against what I found on the site, this is what I quickly noticed I had that didn't already seem to be here:

Addams Family
Lagoon
MechWarrior
SimEarth
Super Off Road
Tetris 2

You have an awesome collection and an awesome house, but what I liked the best was this shot above. The indoor stairs with the cast iron hand rails, the wooden parquet floors, and the color scheme of the walls are all a great touch! You, sir, have a great eye for design and should be very proud!

Thanks!  Of the whole interior remodel (which we consider complete except for slapping a coat of paint on the walls in the old cellar), the reconfiguration of the staircase was the largest undertaking.  The house was built in 1895, and had no original full staircase to access the upper living space.  One was added at a later date (from what we could gather from the history of the home, perhaps the 20's or 30's), though, was added in a manner to minimize the amount of re-framing.  Here's a shot of the original staircase we were presented with 7 years ago:



The staircase was actually tucked behind that wall.  So, if you go through the hallway on the left, and do a 180 spin, the staircase was directly behind you, as you can see in this photo:



It was incredibly steep, and incredibly narrow, to the point where, yes, you could physically get upstairs, though, you couldn't physically get any furniture upstairs.

A friend of mine is a general contractor who specializes in historic homes, and I also was introduced through others an architect who also specialized in historic homes.  Then I have another friend who does custom iron working.  So, between all of us, and my penchant for something completely one-off and unique that fit our style, we came up with this:



Needless to say, we were very happy with the end result.  It completely changed the entire house, making the entire downstairs and upstairs seem more open and inviting.

Looks like you've got a great screen and speakers there. Why haven't you made the jump to Blu-Ray?

I was parked firmly in the HD DVD camp.  So, it was a bit disconcerting watching the Blu-Ray consortium continue to buy up studios to entirely lockout the better of the two products (my opinion).  Plus, I still hold a grudge against Sony after they choked the Dreamcast's 3rd party support (again, my opinion).  I'm a huge Sega fan if you couldn't have already figured out :)  There's not a single Sony product owned in my family, and it will stay that way if I have anything to do with it :)  As far as HD video is concerned, my HD DVD player's upscale DVD's like a champ, so after upgrading my CEDs to VHS, and my VHS to LaserDiscs, and my LaserDiscs to DVD, and my DVDs to what was available in HD DVD, with the advent of Netflix's HD streaming and the HD Zune titles, I've called it quits as far as doing another round of upgrades for my physical movie mediums.

January 02, 2011, 09:53:50 AM
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 :'( I think i'm gonna go look for a 2nd job now...

January 02, 2011, 11:13:56 AM
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Plus, I still hold a grudge against Sony after they choked the Dreamcast's 3rd party support (again, my opinion).  I'm a huge Sega fan if you couldn't have already figured out :)  There's not a single Sony product owned in my family, and it will stay that way if I have anything to do with it :)

I don't know, I firmly believe that the DC's failure has a lot more to do with the astoundingly poor performance of the Saturn than with Sony. That's just the way I've always seen it, that the whole Saturn early launch thing probably haunts Sega still to this day... I'd really hate to have been the guy that gave that plan the green light.

January 02, 2011, 01:13:47 PM
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I don't know, I firmly believe that the DC's failure has a lot more to do with the astoundingly poor performance of the Saturn than with Sony. That's just the way I've always seen it, that the whole Saturn early launch thing probably haunts Sega still to this day... I'd really hate to have been the guy that gave that plan the green light.

I think the Dreamcast, as awesome as the hardware was (built in modem, with later broadband expansion, the VMUs that let you take your games on the road, HD output with the VGA box, etc), had a lot of things working against it.  The lack of 3rd party support, the rampant piracy (I was in college at the time of release, and of all of my friends with a Dreamcast, I was the only one that ever bought any games).

Also, I'll be the first to agree that Sega definitely isn't blameless.  They had built a house where the left hand wasn't communicating with the right hand, in that, Sega USA and Sega Japan were developing competing hardware.  For example, the whole Sega Saturn vs Sega Jupiter(the dedicated 32bit cartridge system, not to be confused with the also never released Neptune that was an integrated Genesis/32X system).

http://portal.segasaturno.com/primeras-informaciones-directamente-desde-sega-japon-de-vt4234.html

Then you also had the Sega USA's Saturn 2 versus Japan's Katana (Dreamcast):

http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?283954-1995-article-on-Lockheed-Martin-s-involvement-with-SEGA-(Model-3-arcade-Saturn-2)

The entire fiasco that was the unreleased Virtua Fighter 3 for Saturn was borderline ridiculous.  Case in point:

http://forums.hidden-palace.org/viewtopic.php?t=2801&sid=109d878cd9cfeb3e36af1791667a2378

To where they even had a dedicated add-on developed for the cartridge port (similar to the 32X for the Genesis) that never saw the light of day:

http://www.segasaturno.com/portal/files/posted_images/2/virtua_figher3_saturn.jpg

To this day, I'm still confused why no US Saturn games used the expansion port (like the Japanese King of Fighters game that used a dedicated cartridge), like in Japan where they had the 4MB Ram expansion cart.  I never could understand why I had to import games like X-Men Vs Street Fighter, and all of the great Capcom games that where near arcade perfect, and the US was left with shoddy stripped down versions for the PSX.  They had designed a very powerful piece of hardware in the Saturn, that I'll agree, was killed off way to early to make room for the Dreamcast.  I still have fond memories of my friends and I playing endless hours of Virtual-On for Sega Saturn over our Sega Netlink modems with our imported Twin Sticks (that still works to this day, thanks to the direct dial multiplayer mode).

January 02, 2011, 01:42:29 PM
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I knew the saturn was kind of a market disaster and there was some internal issues between Sega USA and Sega Japan, but I never knew it went that far.

I've actually only recently been digging into Sega, being largely a Nintendo fan growing up. It's a whole new world for me really.

January 03, 2011, 12:53:41 AM
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I can't speak for Tsolfan, but I didn't start seriously building my collection until I turned about 18/19 or so (so about two/three years ago). I'd always bought older games of course, but I used to trade games a LOT and have since kinda kicked that habit.

I won't worry too much about old games suddenly being too hard to find or expensive, game prices aren't a constant, they're very erratic. There are games that used to be worth TONS several years ago that have dropped a lot in price and vice versa. Final Fantasy VII jumped from $15 to like $50 and back down to around $30 for example.

Really my worry in your shoes wouldn't be price, but more along the lines of things like save batteries not working anymore that you'll have to replace, etc. That's not as bad as you think though, it just means that future game collectors will probably need to learn more and more about caring for, repairing, and restoring these sorts of things.

January 03, 2011, 01:27:06 AM
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I think the day I started seriously collecting was the day Gamestop stopped buying back PS1 games. (Maybe 3-4 years ago? I dont really remember) Once I realized I couldn't get my hands on some older games because they werent available at retail, I stopped selling my stuff just in case I wanted to play it later. I stopped buying so often once I actually had my own money to spend online, so now my buying habits are mostly just oldies I never got to experience that I want to play.
 
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January 03, 2011, 01:29:23 AM
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I was parked firmly in the HD DVD camp.  So, it was a bit disconcerting watching the Blu-Ray consortium continue to buy up studios to entirely lockout the better of the two products (my opinion).  Plus, I still hold a grudge against Sony after they choked the Dreamcast's 3rd party support (again, my opinion).  I'm a huge Sega fan if you couldn't have already figured out :)  There's not a single Sony product owned in my family, and it will stay that way if I have anything to do with it :)  As far as HD video is concerned, my HD DVD player's upscale DVD's like a champ, so after upgrading my CEDs to VHS, and my VHS to LaserDiscs, and my LaserDiscs to DVD, and my DVDs to what was available in HD DVD, with the advent of Netflix's HD streaming and the HD Zune titles, I've called it quits as far as doing another round of upgrades for my physical movie mediums.


Good man. I don't own any Sony products either, same reasons.

Oh wait, that's a lie now, my girlfriend got me a PS1 :p

I'll disown it as not paying for it.

I'm not pleased with the way Sony handled pushing Blu-Ray out, and HD-DVD had more promising features, but Blu-Ray did have a slight edge technologically when you really get down to it. Not terribly relevant to me though, I've got an Apple TV and have gone digital for all intents and purchases.

January 03, 2011, 01:37:06 AM
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Sorry, too many good sony exclusives for me to avoid their systems entirely.

Didn't buy any of them new at least, so it's not like i'm actively supporting them or anything...

January 03, 2011, 02:10:15 AM
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Sorry, too many good sony exclusives for me to avoid their systems entirely.
I agree with this 100%. I don't have a ps2, but even with the ps3 there are so many good games I would have been sad to miss out on (though I do have a similar dislike for Microsoft products, if I didn't have to run windows I wouldn't own a single Microsoft product).

But you do have a great collection, the arcade cabinets are what really caught my eye as that's something I won't be able to get my hands on until at least a few years after I get out of college.

Actually a US citizen, but the US playstation id's look like crap :(

January 03, 2011, 04:30:47 AM
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Do you keep your game catalogued in any way? This is the solution that I came up with (link) - it's saved me from buying duplicates quite a few times!

January 03, 2011, 06:54:03 AM
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Can I ask how you old were, or just when you (seriously) started this collection?  I'm a little worried that by the time I get some real disposable income, all the older games I like will be too hard to find or too expensive :/

I'm currently 32.  As a kid, my parents bougt my Odyssey and Nintendo games for my younger brother and I (had about 15 for each system), but after that, I was on my own.  Rocking my Nintendo Power and EGM subscriptions, I knew the Genesis and Super Nintendo were on the horizon, and my parents let me sell what we had to fund picking those up.

I guess I had the luck of being able to buy most of the rarer games in my collection, like the Sega Saturn titles, when they were still SRP or less at the local Babbages, like Shining Force and Panzer Dragoon Saga, and picking up a lot of games when FuncoLand started liquidating their games as each previous generation got phased out.

It wasn't until I graduated college and got a full time job (about 10 years ago) when I started expanding my collections to include more of the games I could easily find on eBay, and I started with searching for lots, as I could usually get about 50 Dreamcast games for around $100, or about 20 Sega Saturn games or so for around $100.  I would budget for about a lot or two a month.  When it got to the point where lots were giving me too many duplicates, I sold off all of the duplicates in their own unique lots, and recycled those funds into buying the single titles I needed.

I found it was too expensive for my tastes to try and buy each game individually, so the cost savings by finding lots and then re-selling what I didn't need to help offset the costs when I eventually got to where single title auctions were the only option and helped out immensely.

It took me about 2 years to 'fill out' my Sega CD, Saturn, and Dreamcast and Atari Jaguar games.  I've recently started filling out my Super Nintendo and Nintendo 64 collections to include some more games that I always wanted, but couldn't afford to pick up at the time when the systems were current.  I started that about 6 months ago, and have about 10 games for each system I'd still like to pick up, which, I'm a Cheap Ass Gamer, so I always go for auctions for a Buy It Now that's actually fair market value.

If I was to guess (for my more recent eBay activity, I could pull actual numbers), I'd say, I spent approximately $1500 on a complete Sega Dreamcast collection, probably about the same on Sega CD, and probably closer to $2000 on Sega Saturn.  That sounds like a lot (and I don't deny that it is), but over the course of 10 years filling those out, that's about $500 a year, under $50 a month, so not anything that anyone else couldn't budget for.  You just have to have a lot of patience.  That's a lot more affordable that say, if I actually tried to buy all of the Dreamcast games as they were released at $50 each (which I couldn't have, else I would had to have dropped out of college and lost my lease on my apartment :)

Speaking of Cheap Ass Gamer, I'm an avid reader over there, not so much an active poster, but it's how I've built my current Xbox 360 and Wii collections.  I don't mind being a few months behind the curve, and I clean house on the Gamefly sales (thinking back on the past month or so, I picked up games like Darksiders, Nier, Assassins Creed 2, Metroid: Other M, Aliens Vs Predator, Singularity, Transformers: War for Cybertron, all for about $10 a piece) and when NewEgg basically starts throwing games away for $10 a piece (like Splinter Cell: Conviction and Lost Planet 2 as of late).

Thus far, the most I've ever spent on a "classic" game is Keio's Flying Squadron for Sega CD, which I got about a year ago for $100.  The most I've ever spent on a current gen game is $150 on the Amazon.com Exclusive edition of Fallout 3 with the lunch box and Pipboy (I was a huge Fallout fan on the PC, so, they totally played on my emotions with that one :)

Sorry, too many good sony exclusives for me to avoid their systems entirely.

I don't deny there are some great games on Sony systems, though, I think I can afford to miss a few, as I have to prioritize my game time :)  But, fortunately, through either a sequel or a remake, I've had a chance to play a few (Symphony of the Night on Xbox Live, Metal Gear Solid on Gamecube, etc).

Do you keep your game catalogued in any way? This is the solution that I came up with (link) - it's saved me from buying duplicates quite a few times!

I use Google Docs.  I compiled a "complete" list of games for each of the systems I have, and I keep a separate spreadsheet for each.  It probably won't look correct here, but they all look like the following:

   Owned   Prior   Multi   Total   Title   Developer   Publisher   Loose   Scratch
1   X            Addams Family, The   Ocean Software   Ocean Software      
2   X            Alien³   Probe Software   Acclaim Entertainment      
3   X            Batman Returns   Konami   Konami      
4   X   X         Donkey Kong Country   Rare   Nintendo      

Even though I don't have, and don't plan on ever having a complete collection for say, Super Nintendo, I still have all of the games in my spreadsheet, just to have them there.

I use the "Prior" column for games I had in my "best of collection" I bought as I was growing up, before I graduated college and started expanding my collections into either complete (for the Sega systems) or games I always wanted to have but couldn't afford at the time (for the Nintendo systems, and other systems with much larger libraries).  I used the Multi column to flag a title I had multiple copies of, and the Total column to track how many copies.  Those columns helped when it came time for a "duplicate purge" from buying up lots.  I also used my "loose" and "scratch" columns, because sometimes, I'd end up with a mint disc loose, but find a mint case with a horrid disc, so I could make a mint complete copy cheaper than actually buying a mint complete copy.

January 03, 2011, 09:16:41 AM
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Ah that's reassuring, for a minute there I thought you bought most of these at retail price;  the way you've gone about it makes a lot more sense, and sounds like a hobby that's quite a bit of fun.  I'm actually from the opposite camp myself though, I'm a playstation fanboy as that's what I was raised on (ever since seeing final fantasy 8 when I was 11 or so) so the vast majority of my paltry collection is ps1, ps2 and ps3.  My pc and steam games are a little less than half of my collection but they aren't as flashy as a stack of physical cases.  I'm gonna start bolstering my ps1 and ps2 collections in the summer from lots once I get a job again after classes end for the semester - and we won't have to compete hehe.

By the way, I linked this thread/gallery to reddit.com, and can say that as of right now at least 431 people approve of your collection : )  maybe with all the traffic we can get some more newbies like me to join and get some more scans *crosses fingers*

This explains why there are 2500 guests in the forums at the moment... ;)

January 03, 2011, 10:32:44 AM
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This explains why there are 2500 guests in the forums at the moment... ;)

I thought you where kidding, but no!  ;D

Hope they provide good scans and covers, especially for NES and SNES.
At least these are required, see first post:
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