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Ektophase:
oh ok sorry I misunderstood that earlier post. I thought you were saying something else.

hmm I wonder what the problem is, what kind of scanner do you have?

Is it a flatbed scanner?

Do you have an option for descreen at all with your scanner software?

I could scan the nights box i have (3dcontroller version but 95% same cover) at 300 dpi and show you what it looks like, I have a flatbed cheap canon scaner from like 1999. I'll take a closer look tomorrow and see if I can see a big difference between the 2.

It just seems like you should be getting much better quality, I wonder why they are coming out so strange?

lol @ not trusting Stenchler

Edit ------heres a shot I put my unaltered raw scan at the bottom (300dpi) the 2 problems with yours are the edges are jittery and there is a weird rough texture over the whole thing (ignore the color difference thats not an issue) (these are not resized)

The rough texture is really evident in the light corona behind the head. Its hard to tell if its moire or some sort of scanner problem since it kind of goes with the jitter edges??

tiktektak:
Yeah ekto you're right. I allready checked some saturn covers made with tsolfans scans and unfortunately they didn't pass quality control. There were some strange artifacts on them asnd moire and jittery stuff all over. So I think that it could be a scanner problem.

TSOLfan:

--- Quote from: Ektophase on January 31, 2011, 12:24:40 AM ---The rough texture is really evident in the light corona behind the head. Its hard to tell if its moire or some sort of scanner problem since it kind of goes with the jitter edges??

--- End quote ---

I have a HP C309a flatbed scanner, and I scan directly from the scanner (in that, I use a USB flash drive in the front USB port and scan using the built in scanner menus).

Just for fun, I got my Nights back out, and put the instruction manual back on the scanner, and used Photoshop CS3 and the HP scanner plugin, scanned at 600dpi with the descreen option turned on. You can view the full scan here:

http://www.ratigators.com/downloads/saturn/Nights (USA) (Front) (600).jpg

I took a sample of your area of concern at 100% zoom and you can see that here below:

I'll be the first to agree that it does not look as smooth as the sample you provided from your scanner. Though, your sample looks to be from a completely different source, and again, I fall back to the same argument, that what I'm seeing in my scans are what I'm seeing with my own eyes looking at the original extremely up close, which is the natural effect of the original halftone printing process:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halftone

More than likely, the huge differences we are seeing in your scan versus my scan is that, whatever you are scanning was perhaps originally printed using an entirely different printing process.

I've said this before earlier in this thread, and that is, I'm not out to purposefully flood this project with a bunch of bad scans. I'm scanning what I have when requested with the equipment that I have, and at the end of the day, the results I'm seeing are indicative of what I'm seeing in the original artwork, else I wouldn't even bother taking the time to scan/upload anything and waste my time and your time. Maybe my eyesight's just too good :)

I'm going to be hard pressed to find a way to make my scanner make something look better than the original. The only "fix" I can think of would be to get crazy with some blur to attempt to mask the original halftone artifacts, though, I'm not a huge fan of that.

Feel free to down-rank this thread into oblivion and re-title it as "Games Available to Scan as an Absolute Last Resort" :D

@BadChad

Let me know if you still want me to bother with your scans, because from the looks of things, it will probably still get rejected :)

TSOLfan:
Also, here's another thought. Again, I keep harping on the fact that my scanner is producing exactly what I'm seeing with my own eyes looking at the original. Could it be that perhaps Sega just simply half-assed it when it came to sending all of their art to the printers for Sega Saturn games?

For example, here's a random scan I pulled from the Raw Cover Scans link on the left for a game I scanned that BadChad mentioned got rejected. For reference, this is not my scan:

http://www.thecoverproject.net/uploads/raw/Sega%20-%20Saturn/akrate69.retail.raw_saturn_legendoasis_front.jpg

Here's another. Again, another random raw scan I pulled, scanned by someone else, not me:

http://www.thecoverproject.net/uploads/raw/Sega%20-%20Saturn/mazut.retail.raw_saturn_saturn_street_figter_alpha_2_front.jpg

And another:

http://www.thecoverproject.net/uploads/raw/Sega%20-%20Saturn/JSF%20James.retail.raw_saturn_super_puzzle_fighter_2_turbo_bookfront_600dpi.jpg

And another:

http://www.thecoverproject.net/uploads/raw/Sega%20-%20Saturn/Gholla20.retail.raw_saturn_bighurtlfrontnew.jpg

And one more:

http://www.thecoverproject.net/uploads/raw/Sega%20-%20Saturn/dmc1974.retail.raw_saturn_panzeerdragoon_front.jpg

All different games, all different users doing the scans, and I can only assume, all different scanners.

Which would mean, regardless of how many times I try to scan these, on any scanner, there's no way to get around the fact that the original art sucked to begin with :)

As they always say, garbage in, garbage out :D

Ektophase:
Here is your die hard and then mine. Like i said before my scanner is over 10 years old, it a Canon CanoScan N650U
I'll agree many of those scans by other people are not that great maybe they forgot descreen or something.
Im not trying to disrespect you or nothing I just think there is something wrong with your scanner, it could be a setting, or maybe its not working correctly, or the thing may just be junk machine.
Do you have access to another scanner like a siblings or friends to test it out?

(again this is a raw scan 300 dpi to match yours with no altering in photoshop)

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