Author Topic: Games Available to Scan (Atari Jaguar, Sega CD, Saturn, Dreamcast, Neo Geo, etc)  (Read 16646 times)

December 28, 2010, 01:03:14 PM
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tsolfan,

So i finally got around and started editing the uploads you posted (thanks for that). But now I have a question.

What scanner and setting are you using, and are you "Descreening"? The reason i ask is because the scans look kinda rough and pixelated.

To understand what I'm talking bout, look at this scan I uploaded a wile back. You will see that the image is a lot smoother.
http://www.thecoverproject.net/uploads/raw/Sega%20-%20SegaCD/velvet396.retail.raw_segacd_road%20avenger%20front001.jpg

Now don't get me wrong.. I really, REALLY appreciate your contribution to the project, but I think we can get a much better results when making a cover if the scans are a little better quality.
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December 28, 2010, 02:45:46 PM
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tsolfan,

So i finally got around and started editing the uploads you posted (thanks for that). But now I have a question.

What scanner and setting are you using, and are you "Descreening"? The reason i ask is because the scans look kinda rough and pixelated.

To understand what I'm talking bout, look at this scan I uploaded a wile back. You will see that the image is a lot smoother.
http://www.thecoverproject.net/uploads/raw/Sega%20-%20SegaCD/velvet396.retail.raw_segacd_road%20avenger%20front001.jpg

Now don't get me wrong.. I really, REALLY appreciate your contribution to the project, but I think we can get a much better results when making a cover if the scans are a little better quality.

Thanks for the feedback.

My scanner is a HP Photosmart C309A.

I tried a few different methods, and settled upon how I'm currently doing it (and I'm open to constructive criticism :)

I originally did some scans through Photoshop CS3 using the HP utility, scanning in at 600dpi with descreening turned on.  I also tried scanning straight from my scanner to a USB drive (it has a USB port).  Through that method, it scans at 300dpi, and I have yet to find a way around it.

After comparing the results between the two different methods, I found the scan straight from the scanner to USB produced more "realistic" results.  By realistic, I mean, more akin to what I'm actually putting on the scanner to scan.  When scanning at 600dpi with descreening, I did indeed get a higher resolution file, though, there was more of an artificial "blur".  When zooming both files to 100%, I was much happier with the latter method.

Granted, things are going to look rough as these are raw scans in the truest sense, in that, I'm not applying any cleanup (no contrast adjustments, no level adjustments, no dust/scratch filters or rubber stamping to fix defects), and most of these games have been a great deal of play over the years, and even though I've done my best to preserve everything, everything in my collection is "used" :D

Also, to be honest, the way I'm doing it saves me a "huge" amount of time, especially since I do these in the morning before I go to work.  My scanner is downstairs and my home office with computer and my game collections are upstairs, and I can crank these scans out straight to a USB drive in relatively short order after bringing the games downstairs (only having to do some minor cropping after the fact).  Doing it the Photoshop way, I found I had to put something on the glass, and then put some weights on it to keep it flat (as opposed to just holding it down when doing it via USB) so I could run upstairs to hit the scan button, and then waiting for the preview, and then manually having to tell it to do the 600dpi descreened scan (which takes a fair amount of time), waiting for it to be sent to Photoshop, and then cropping.

I'm not someone just to write something without some proof, so here's a sample of what I'm talking about:

http://www.ratigators.com/downloads/segacd/Shadow of the Beast II (USA) (Front) (300).jpg
http://www.ratigators.com/downloads/segacd/Shadow of the Beast II (USA) (Front) (600).jpg

I was much more satisfied with the crispness of the 300dpi scan, versus the larger and slightly blurry 600dpi scan (I'm looking at 100% size).

I did check out your scan, and by no means do I mean to come across crass, but where you see "smooth", I see "gaussian blur", in that, if I take my 300dpi scan and throw a .5 gaussian blur, I seem to get the same "smoothness" that I can see in a 600dpi scan.  All in all, I know it comes down to personal preference.

I'm hopeful in that my raw scans can be cleaned up/touched up by whomever is making whatever use of these requests.

Now, with all of that said, there's no point in me scanning a bunch of artwork that won't do anyone any good, and if someone can find a hidden menu option in my scanner (or updated/hacked firmware) that will let me adjust dpi/descreening settings directly on the scanner when scanning straight to a USB drive, I'll be all for doing everything at anything.

December 28, 2010, 05:45:43 PM
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Done and linked.

Thanks a million. I've been looking for a scan of that for ages. You should take some pictures of your collection for the photo gallery. I'd love to see what it all looks like.

Also, I noticed you have a misprinted Chu Chu Rocket. What exactly is wrong with it?

December 28, 2010, 09:05:13 PM
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tsolfan,

Trust me when I say that I really appreciate the scans. I hope you understand that I was not trying complaining about your scans.. On the contrary, they are a lot better than some other raw files I've seen. I was just wondering why the scans looked quite the way they do.

Having said that, please keep up the work. we need all the scans we can get our hands on  ;D ..

BTW. I already completed the Keio and Shadow SCD DVD covers. I'm gona be adding them to the site later this week.

Again, Thanks for your contributions tot he site!
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December 28, 2010, 11:25:28 PM
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I kinda see what Vt102 means tho. I just finished putting together a Clockwork Knight 2 cover with your scans, and I did end up with a nice end result but I also found that it took a little extra work to fix up. With 600dpi scans we have a bigger scan to work with which gives you more detail after youve touched up the scan before you resize it as where the 300dpi scans are not much bigger than the size of the templates we use. The blurring isnt much of an issue either because you can run a sharpen filter to take care of that.

But like Vt102 said, dont get me wrong because we really do appreciate your scans either way. Your a great resource for this project.

EDIT: Oh and Id like to request Darius Gaiden and Die Hard Arcade next please! :)
« Last Edit: December 29, 2010, 01:28:55 AM by BadChad »

December 29, 2010, 07:55:27 AM
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No offense taken guys, and I really do appreciate the feedback.  I'm just releasing the best scans I can with the hardware and time that I have.  The offer still stands, if someone can find a way to override the default 300dpi scan quality of my scanner when using the on-scanner menu to scan straight to a USB drive (there are all kinds of fax settings menus and advanced fax settings menus, but not a single scan settings menu, only scan destination menu), I'm all for cranking out 600dpi scans everytime :D

Concerning the Darius Gaiden and Die Hard Arcade scan requests, those are done and linked.

December 29, 2010, 08:32:09 AM
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Also, I don't have a huge import collection, though, I do have a few that I could scan if scans are needed:

Sega Saturn
Akumajou Dracula X: Gekka no Yasoukyoku
Daytona USA
Dead or Alive
Deep Fear
Dragon Ball Z Idainaru Dragon Ball Densetsu
Dragon Ball Z Shinbutouden
Dungeons & Dragons Collection
Marvel Super Heroes Vs Street Fighter
Mobile Suit Gundam
Panzer Dragoon
Panzer Dragoon II Zwei
Pocket Fighter
Vampire Savior
Virtua Fighter
Virtua Fighter 2
Virtua Fighter Remix
X-Men Vs Street Fighter

Sega Dreamcast
Capcom Vs SNK 2 Millionaire Fighting 2001
Guilty Gear X
King of Fighters 1999 Dream Match, The
King of Fighters 1999 Evolution, The
King of Fighters 2000, The
King of Fighters 2001, The
King of Fighters 2002, The
Marvel Vs Capcom
Marvel Vs. Capcom 2: New Age of Heroes
Sonic the Hedgehog Birthday Pack
Street Fighter Zero 3: Saikyō-ryū Dōjō

December 29, 2010, 09:01:15 AM
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Also, I noticed you have a misprinted Chu Chu Rocket. What exactly is wrong with it?

The back insert was designed with both vector and raster based images.  In the first pressing, the print that was used had horribly low resolution raster images, to where none of the screen shots were legible, and the Photoshop comp of the game characters was also very pixellated.  Back when I did print design ages ago, lower resolution raster images were used in the design phase for speed, but swapped out prior to sending it out to the printer.  My guess is, someone made a mistake and forgot to do the swap.  Also, between the first and second pressing, they also changed the color orange for the KapuKapus (they went from a muted orange to a near neon orange).  This color swap was done on both the back and front.

I did a quick comparison scan.  To note, I had these both on the scanner glass at the same time for a reason, so you could see that it wasn't the scanner re-adjusting colors or resolution.

You can view the scan here (resized to 150dpi so you don't have to do a lot of scrolling to compare):

http://www.ratigators.com/downloads/dreamcast/Chu Chu Rocket (USA) (Compare).jpg

I actually prefer the original colors

December 30, 2010, 04:42:43 AM
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December 30, 2010, 09:21:42 AM
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December 30, 2010, 11:26:36 AM
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I love WWII strategy games.. so a scan of Iron Storm and PTO II wold be greatly appreciated. =)
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December 30, 2010, 03:43:33 PM
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Thanks a million. I've been looking for a scan of that for ages. You should take some pictures of your collection for the photo gallery. I'd love to see what it all looks like.

I took some quick photos and did a quick write up and posted it over in the Photo Gallery thread:

http://www.thecoverproject.net/forums/index.php?topic=4817.0

If you ever have any questions about restoring a historic home, let me know, my wife and I are 7 years into it (with what we estimate a year or two left to go :)

I love WWII strategy games.. so a scan of Iron Storm and PTO II wold be greatly appreciated. =)

I got off work today a bit early, but getting things ready to head out of town for New Years, but I'll get to these when I get back (should be Sunday).  Though, Iron Storm is one of the foil print Working Designs game, so, that may or may not turn out well, but I'll give it a try.

December 31, 2010, 06:49:06 PM
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The back insert was designed with both vector and raster based images.  In the first pressing, the print that was used had horribly low resolution raster images, to where none of the screen shots were legible, and the Photoshop comp of the game characters was also very pixellated.  Back when I did print design ages ago, lower resolution raster images were used in the design phase for speed, but swapped out prior to sending it out to the printer.  My guess is, someone made a mistake and forgot to do the swap.  Also, between the first and second pressing, they also changed the color orange for the KapuKapus (they went from a muted orange to a near neon orange).  This color swap was done on both the back and front.

I did a quick comparison scan.  To note, I had these both on the scanner glass at the same time for a reason, so you could see that it wasn't the scanner re-adjusting colors or resolution.

You can view the scan here (resized to 150dpi so you don't have to do a lot of scrolling to compare):

http://www.ratigators.com/downloads/dreamcast/Chu Chu Rocket (USA) (Compare).jpg

I actually prefer the original colors

Cool little insight. I had no idea things like that would be done.

Could I now request Silver for Dreamcast? I think that'll then be it for me (no promises). Thanks! :D

January 02, 2011, 10:11:31 AM
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I love WWII strategy games.. so a scan of Iron Storm and PTO II wold be greatly appreciated. =)

Done and linked.

@BadChad

I've scanned Lagoon and linked it in the original post.  Also, I posted a list of what Super Nintendo and Nintendo 64 NTSC-U games I have available to scan, as well as Nuon titles (the spiritual successor to the Atari Jaguar).

@comradesnarky

I've got Silver scanned, though, have to go run some errands this morning.  I'll have it up here later today.

January 02, 2011, 10:58:41 AM
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Are those SNES games NTSC-J too? If so, I'd love a scan of the japanese version of Super Ghouls N' Ghosts. I've never liked the US art and would love to make a custom with the japanese art.

nevermind, judging from your pics of your collection they're just US releases. You can freely ignore this.
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