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LIVE price increase
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PDDestro:
For ppl in the US just hold off and buy the 12+1 live cards for $30 when they go on sale @ Amazon, Buy.com, & Newegg.com. The sales might go up too but it's still better than paying full price...
AppleQueso:
Paying for xbox live in general would be a lot more justified if it wasn't just p2p.
Mick Dundee:
I wouldn't mind paying if it was so I could use (if I actually wanted to) the extra services such as the Last FM, Netflix, Facebook, and any other crap... but just to play with other people should be free in my opinion
Jonesat:
lol obviously they want to make a profit, but your also forgetting the cost of having all these servers running dedicated to sole games, and they keep running as well (unlike EA games that only support servers for 400 days ish)  look how many of their games from release STILL are supporting dedicated servers!

i play online on ps3, and if all they needed was 5$ a month to fix their shitty servers and actually have some quality, i would def do that in a heart beat.  

its def worth the 5$ a month ppl

As Tycho says :

"PSN is not an acceptable substitute for Xbox Live, though it's often said  to be, because in order to appear reasonable it is sometimes necessary to say things which are untrue. The only way to say something like that with a straight face is if you don't have experience with both, or if you don't play a lot of online games with friends. Even ancillary things like how it updates games (or the box itself) aren't up to par. I've had that fantasy before, believe me, the one where I shift my allegiance: Bluetooth headset slung firmly over the ear, I would set out to found a virtuous kingdom. But then I couldn't chat with whoever I wanted, when I wanted to chat with them. I couldn't form a game independent group to plan the evening's adventures, retain communications, or simply to mute every other person on the service. Invites don't manifest themselves in any kind of consistent form. These aren't little things - they're baseline functionality. It would be great if Sony offered a product this absolute, but they have chosen not to do so."
Phantom5800:
^ I'm sorry ... games don't necessarily have servers running for them on XBox Live, but it's true. If they do it is for score boards or match-making (though that might be possible with P2P). XBox Live online gameplay is through Peer2Peer (ie, directly connecting all the consoles, not mediating through a server). The servers for XBox Live are to keep track of GamerScore and to host their downloadable games. Yes that does cost money ... but read my post from above, they make money off of advertising on the XBox, as well as dlc. The fact that they charge for a service that is in fact comparable to PSN is ridiculous now. When they started ... it was the only option besides PC, so they could get away with it, but now PSN and Wii are both free to play online (say all you want about it not being as good, it's free to play).

The only issue I've had with PSN is that it sometimes takes almost FIVE SECONDS (omg) to connect to the service and maybe close to TEN SECONDS to start playing a game online from the in-game lobby (sorry if you don't know what a server lobby is, I know almost no 360 games have one that I've seen).

Okay, rant #2 ... end :P I'm sorry if I am just sounding like a rabid fanboy, but I hate the price-gouging Microsoft is doing (just like I hate how expensive Apple products are when compared to other alternatives). Compare the service they offer now for $60/year vs what Sony offers for free to all users ... and the difference is ... cross-game-chat ... yeah, that's about the only thing gaming related that is different.
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