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mysteriospyder:
Since that's cleared up, is there a way to get that Bug Too cover you made even if the upload feature on this site is down, or whatever the issue is?

PDDestro:

--- Quote from: mysteriospyder on July 31, 2010, 09:18:57 AM ---
--- Quote from: irvgotti452 on July 31, 2010, 08:51:55 AM ---
Because I'm sure we all have one to play our imports. Because i work with the music industry and we do not support piracy >:(.

--- Quote from: mysteriospyder on July 31, 2010, 07:36:58 AM ---AH you made a Street Fighter Zero 3 cover! SWEET! It's another cover on my list that I need. I'd like to have it in NTSC-U style but I'd be happy with the cover you have now but to fit a standard dvd case.

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I'll dig up the old .psd file and ill hook it up with a better back cover.

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Please explain what piracy means to you.

I'll admit my Saturn and PS1 have mod chips installed in them, here's why.

In 1996 I recieved my Saturn, I vowed to collect EVERY NTSC-U released game for the Saturn. I achieved that goal 12 years later. 6 months after achieving my goal, the company I worked for went under, that was 3 months before Christmas. I wasn't rolling in dough but I wasn't poor either, I classified under "average joe" How do I explain to my 2 and 6 year old daughters Santa couldn't bring them presents this year? OBVIOUSLY I couldn't so something had to be sold to help cover finances,. My huge Saturn collection was the obvious choice. It was a very hard decision as I spent tons of money and 12 years collecting the games. I didn't want to part with them so I bought a mod chip, copied all the games and sold the originals (to this day I'm still upset I had to do that). Once I saw what people where paying for some of the games I KNEW there was no way I'd get that collection back as I will NOT pay some person or bid against a person for example $200 for a 10+ year old game.

I don't think what I did is piracy for the simple reason Sega no longer sees ANY money on Saturn games as they killed off the console years ago andno longer produce games for it. Same goes with Dreamcast, Sega CD, 3DO, Turbografx 16CD. After seeing how much money are willing to pay for my saturn games, I did the same with ALL my classics that are no longer produced.

My PS2 and PS3 are NOT mod chipped as theyre still in production and Sony and developers still make money off the games, chipping those consoles to me is concidred Piracy as I'd be robbing from the developers and Sony. I support the game developers and console manufacturers until they no longer support the console, I do NOT support some idiot on Ebay wanting $200 + for a 10+ year old game. A game's value is worth what I say it is as it's MY money being spent, not some idiot on ebay.

I'm curious on your opinion Irvgotti. I do support the music industry as well as I'm HUGE on physical media, not digital media, I still buy my music on CD's.

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You can try to justify what you've done and claim it's something else but the end result is you have illegal duplicates without the originals. It's piracy plain and simple. On top of that you profited off of the prices you were able to receive from the same market you so disdain, all the while still enjoying the pirated copies w/o consent. You wanted to have your cake and eat it too, but it doesn't work that way.

You may have not foreseen services like the Wii's Virtual Console, XBL, PSN or rereleases on current handhelds, but nonetheless those companies retained those copyrights to all that old software for a reason: it's theirs. This isn't abandonware, and you are a pirate. It's disingenuous to try to put a spin on it so as to try to morally cleanse yourself of what you've done. If you are going to do wrong, at least have the backbone and decency to be honest about it.

mysteriospyder:

--- Quote from: Victor Von Doom on July 31, 2010, 09:56:59 AM ---
--- Quote from: mysteriospyder on July 31, 2010, 09:18:57 AM ---
--- Quote from: irvgotti452 on July 31, 2010, 08:51:55 AM ---
Because I'm sure we all have one to play our imports. Because i work with the music industry and we do not support piracy >:(.

--- Quote from: mysteriospyder on July 31, 2010, 07:36:58 AM ---AH you made a Street Fighter Zero 3 cover! SWEET! It's another cover on my list that I need. I'd like to have it in NTSC-U style but I'd be happy with the cover you have now but to fit a standard dvd case.

--- End quote ---

I'll dig up the old .psd file and ill hook it up with a better back cover.

--- End quote ---

Please explain what piracy means to you.

I'll admit my Saturn and PS1 have mod chips installed in them, here's why.

In 1996 I recieved my Saturn, I vowed to collect EVERY NTSC-U released game for the Saturn. I achieved that goal 12 years later. 6 months after achieving my goal, the company I worked for went under, that was 3 months before Christmas. I wasn't rolling in dough but I wasn't poor either, I classified under "average joe" How do I explain to my 2 and 6 year old daughters Santa couldn't bring them presents this year? OBVIOUSLY I couldn't so something had to be sold to help cover finances,. My huge Saturn collection was the obvious choice. It was a very hard decision as I spent tons of money and 12 years collecting the games. I didn't want to part with them so I bought a mod chip, copied all the games and sold the originals (to this day I'm still upset I had to do that). Once I saw what people where paying for some of the games I KNEW there was no way I'd get that collection back as I will NOT pay some person or bid against a person for example $200 for a 10+ year old game.

I don't think what I did is piracy for the simple reason Sega no longer sees ANY money on Saturn games as they killed off the console years ago andno longer produce games for it. Same goes with Dreamcast, Sega CD, 3DO, Turbografx 16CD. After seeing how much money are willing to pay for my saturn games, I did the same with ALL my classics that are no longer produced.

My PS2 and PS3 are NOT mod chipped as theyre still in production and Sony and developers still make money off the games, chipping those consoles to me is concidred Piracy as I'd be robbing from the developers and Sony. I support the game developers and console manufacturers until they no longer support the console, I do NOT support some idiot on Ebay wanting $200 + for a 10+ year old game. A game's value is worth what I say it is as it's MY money being spent, not some idiot on ebay.

I'm curious on your opinion Irvgotti. I do support the music industry as well as I'm HUGE on physical media, not digital media, I still buy my music on CD's.

--- End quote ---

You can try to justify what you've done and claim it's something else but the end result is you have illegal duplicates without the originals. It's piracy plain and simple. On top of that you profited off of the prices you were able to receive from the same market you so disdain, all the while still enjoying the pirated copies w/o consent. You wanted to have your cake and eat it too, but it doesn't work that way.

You may have not foreseen services like the Wii's Virtual Console, XBL, PSN or rereleases on current handhelds, but nonetheless those companies retained those copyrights to all that old software for a reason: it's theirs. This isn't abandonware, and you are a pirate. It's disingenuous to try to put a spin on it so as to try to morally cleanse yourself of what you've done. If you are going to do wrong, at least have the backbone and decency to be honest about it.

--- End quote ---

Fair enough, opinions are welcomed, I still dissagree. How does a company like Gamestop get away with selling used games and making full profit while the developer sees nothing on the sale of a used game? The games where once purchased new at one time, just like my collection was, not the WHOLE collection but alot where. Is it because there wasn't a "copy" or "backup" made?

I may just not understand the meaning I don't know. I've always thought piracy is when you copy an item or download an item in which you have never owned for free. I've never copied a game I've never owned nor have I donloaded a game. Years ago I remember my parents, myself, and EVERYBODY I knew with a VCR copymovies so I guess we where all pirates then.

Don't get me wrong, I honestly don't believe what I did is piracy, but in all honeslty if what I did IS piracy, then I'll admit I'm a pirate, I'll admit it, I don't like to say I am but I guess I view it differently. If I'm concidred a pirate, wel, then this sucks because I'm against it.

I put the games on Ebay because it's where I was told to sell classic games as places like gametop didn't take old games. I personally refuse to pay what some of the people paid for the games, I didn't know they'd sell for that much.

If I'm a pirate for what I did then I'll be destroying the discs plain and simple. I should've kept my mouth shut and I'd would've never known. This really sucks. I'm against piracy but I am a pirate? I'm taking down my cover requests as I no longer need them. Thanks to whoever started on the covers if you have.

PDDestro:

--- Quote from: mysteriospyder on July 31, 2010, 10:07:04 AM ---
Fair enough, opinions are welcomed, I still dissagree. How does a company like Gamestop get away with selling used games and making full profit while the developer sees nothing on the sale of a used game? The games where once purchased new at one time, just like my collection was, not the WHOLE collection but alot where. Is it because there wasn't a "copy" or "backup" made?
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Do you not realize by your own logic then that you've done worse? Reselling an item where the original maker does not see further sales is perfectly legal and moral, because they've already seen a sale for that initial copy and once the item leaves your hands you do not have access to it anymore until you reacquire it. By copying the game before reselling it you bridged the moral ground by choosing to retain a perfect 1:1 copy so you could keep enjoying the product w/o still having a right to do so (i.e. the author did not see another payment for another copy made), AND you made a nice and tidy sum selling off the original in the process. If you believe what Gamestop does is wrong then what you have done is doubly wrong. You have profited off the resale while also not paying the copyright holder for another copy.

--- Quote ---I may just not understand the meaning I don't know. I've always thought piracy is when you copy an item or download an item in which you have never owned for free. If what I did is considered piracy then myself, and every person in the world who has had a VCR and copied a movie is a pirate also, no?
--- End quote ---

Piracy is making a copy w/o the right to do so. Under fair use law you may make a backup but once you sell the game you must destroy that backup since you no longer have the license to said game.
And yes, VHS copies of a work would be piracy, however since it is not a perfect digital 1:1 copy some authors may not have an issue with that, while to other authors it makes no difference at all. Nonetheless, the argument that a lot of people do something doesn't somehow make said act correct. A lot of people do a lot of stuff that isn't legal, moral, or a combination thereof, it doesn't justify doing the act.

--- Quote ---Don't get me wrong, I honestly don't believe what I did is piracy, but in all honeslty if what I did IS piracy, then I'll admit I'm a pirate, I'll admit it, I don't like to say I am but I guess I view it differently.

I put the games on Ebay because it's where I was told to sell classic games as places like gametop didn't take old games. I personally refuse to pay what some of the people paid for the games, I didn't know they'd sell for that much.

--- End quote ---

Maybe so, but in the end you profited well from the sale of your old collection and still get to enjoy the product all the same w/o the copyright holders seeing a dime from said sales or said reproduction of said game discs. It's the essence of piracy and there's no logical reason why it should be any different whether the item is new or old or whether the item is a music cd, a dvd, a book, or a game cd.

mysteriospyder:

--- Quote from: Victor Von Doom on July 31, 2010, 10:40:50 AM ---
--- Quote from: mysteriospyder on July 31, 2010, 10:07:04 AM ---
Fair enough, opinions are welcomed, I still dissagree. How does a company like Gamestop get away with selling used games and making full profit while the developer sees nothing on the sale of a used game? The games where once purchased new at one time, just like my collection was, not the WHOLE collection but alot where. Is it because there wasn't a "copy" or "backup" made?
--- End quote ---

Do you not realize by your own logic then that you've done worse? Reselling an item where the original maker does not see further sales is perfectly legal and moral, because they've already seen a sale for that initial copy and once the item leaves your hands you do not have access to it anymore until you reacquire it. By copying the game before reselling it you bridged the moral ground by choosing to retain a perfect 1:1 copy so you could keep enjoying the product w/o still having a right to do so (i.e. the author did not see another payment for another copy made), AND you made a nice and tidy sum selling off the original in the process. If you believe what Gamestop does is wrong then what you have done is doubly wrong. You have profited off the resale while also not paying the copyright holder for another copy.

--- Quote ---I may just not understand the meaning I don't know. I've always thought piracy is when you copy an item or download an item in which you have never owned for free. If what I did is considered piracy then myself, and every person in the world who has had a VCR and copied a movie is a pirate also, no?
--- End quote ---

Piracy is making a copy w/o the right to do so. Under fair use law you may make a backup but once you sell the game you must destroy that backup since you no longer have the license to said game.
And yes, VHS copies of a work would be piracy, however since it is not a perfect digital 1:1 copy some authors may not have an issue with that, while to other authors it makes no difference at all. Nonetheless, the argument that a lot of people do something doesn't somehow make said act correct. A lot of people do a lot of stuff that isn't legal, moral, or a combination thereof, it doesn't justify doing the act.

--- Quote ---Don't get me wrong, I honestly don't believe what I did is piracy, but in all honeslty if what I did IS piracy, then I'll admit I'm a pirate, I'll admit it, I don't like to say I am but I guess I view it differently.

I put the games on Ebay because it's where I was told to sell classic games as places like gametop didn't take old games. I personally refuse to pay what some of the people paid for the games, I didn't know they'd sell for that much.

--- End quote ---

Maybe so, but in the end you profited well from the sale of your old collection and still get to enjoy the product all the same w/o the copyright holders seeing a dime from said sales or said reproduction of said game discs. It's the essence of piracy and there's no logical reason why it should be any different whether the item is new or old or whether the item is a music cd, a dvd, a book, or a game cd.

--- End quote ---

I appreciate your input as I'm blind, or WAS blind to what a pirate is. I thank you Victor, I refuse to be labled a pirate, or, continue to be one as I'm against. im not against you, you did the right thing, I was obviously blind on the matter. I never thought to actually look up the proper term of piracy, I went by my OWN opinion on it. I honeslty thought that once you purchase an item, you have the right to do what you want with it, I didn't know once you get rid of the item you lose that right.

I took down my cover requests, if anybody has started on any of them keep going for other members but I no longer need them as I'll be destroying the discs.

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