Re-Scan of N64 Covers

[ShoothimNow]

I am really REALLY embarrassed of this because I am afraid of being flamed "waste of bandwidth", "not needed, scans we have are fine", etc... but I really can't take it anymore.  Please read the whole post.

It seems that the amount of N64 covers here on The Cover Project are all in horizontal format.  There is no problem with that, but upon inspection, few games have Vertical covers.  I personally am a fan of the Vertical Style cases, due to the additional "uniform" look they provide when shelving.  However, the production of these Vertical Cases seems to average around 1 (maybe 2) a month.  What could be causing this?

About a month ago, Shenske introduced Nintendo 64 Mini Cases and I am still inlove with this concept.  After pestering him for the template, I was able to print out a Super Smash Bros Mini Case.  However... like an addiction, one was not enough.  I have downloaded every Nintendo 64 cover on this site and I am suprised on how badly the covers look.  With half-assed red bottom bars, grainy pixels, and stickers / writings, I know that with some small edits with some new scans, every case could look top-notch.

From working with Shenske's N64 Mini Cases, I have been constantly looking for the four colored sides (Green Spine, Blue Spine, Red Flap, and Yellow Flap).  Personally I am requesting for scans of these sides (most covers have poo quality green spines that are easily fixable), but I am sure I speak for a lot of uploaders when I say that some better quality scans would most likely promote the creation of newer N64 Vertical Covers (and possibly N64 Mini Cases).


I only ask this because... I have looked for the past hour searching for the red flap and yellow flap for Super Mario 64, and I still cant find them!  So I figured, why not ask The Cover Project for some assistance!  Thank you for reading and I really hope you can contribute to the cause!


(US) N64 Mini Cases Finished --
  --  Conker's Bad Fur Day
  --  Mario Kart 64
  --  Mario Tennis
  --  Pokemon Stadium
  --  Super Smash Bros

Meaning, I am in need for a lot more N64 scans

[Shadowfox]

I hate to jump on the band wagon, but I agree with you ShoothimNow 100%!

I LOVE Shenske's Vertical format and wish someone would go through all the N64 covers and convert them! I spend a lot of my time here on TCP in the N64 and SNES areas of the site; and I have noticed the poor quality in several of the N64 covers.

I think we need to have a REAL complete set of the N64 game covers and that would include BOTH Vertical and Horizontal formats.

"I am suprised on how badly the covers look.  With half-assed red bottom bars, grainy pixels, and stickers / writings, I know that with some small edits with some new scans, every case could look top-notch."

I agree! I have gone through all the covers and have come up with this list of covers that have something wrong with them. There might be a few more items/covers I didn't catch...but who knows...

All-Star Baseball 2001 - N64 logo is cut off at the end
Asteroids 64 - "dark" N64 logo
Automobili Lamborghini - dirty N64 logo
Bass Hunter 64- bid ol' white sticker on back
Blast corps - marker on bar code
Chameleon twist - Red band letters are cut off
FIFA 64' Red band letters are cut off
Knockout Kings 2000 - Bar code is wornout/off looks horrible.
Mike Piazza's Strike Zone - the barcode has the word "PUT" from a marker.
NFL QB Club 2001 - Has TWO stickers on the cover; one on the front that says "NEW RELEASE!" and another yellow one on the back.
NHL 99 - Has a yellow stick on the front of the cover
Olympic Hockey 98 - Red band letters are cut off
Quake II - Does the NTSC spine have the Nintendo 64 on it and in red?
Ridge Racer 64 - Has a sticker on the back of the cover.
Shadow Man - The NTSC spine does not say nintendo 64 and is not black.
Super Bowling - Big ol' white sticker on the FRONT of the cover!
Transformers: Beast Wars - The bottom half of the red bar is grainy looks very bad.
Turok: Rage Wars - Is the NTSC spine really say nintendo 64 and black?
Waialae Country Club - On the spine the word Country the "C" is partly cut off.
WWF Attitude - Bar code is wornout/off looks horrible.
WWF War Zone - the barcode has the word "PUT" from a marker.

Also, I would love if someone could put the Rumble Pack cover into the Nintendo 64 area with it's cutting template...

ShoothimNow, you are right about the N64 area of the site, we are almost there! We just need to polish it up and bust a move no the Vertical covers! 

[BadChad]

Id imagine alot of the N64 covers were made when quality control wasnt as strict. Obviously now these would be rejected. But back then they were probably very acceptable. Just something to think about...

[ShoothimNow]

Id imagine alot of the N64 covers were made when quality control wasnt as strict. Obviously now these would be rejected. But back then they were probably very acceptable. Just something to think about...

Which is why I am asking for a re-call of scans

[juan0tron]

Hey ShoothimNow, would you mind posting the mini cases you already have finished?  I sadly have no scans of my own I can provide, seeing as my N64 collection is 100% used. I did see a Bio Freaks box at Play N Trade recently, maybe now I'll pick it up if it's still there next time I have some cash

[AppleQueso]

I've got a handful of boxes but no scanner

[ShoothimNow]

Looking mainly for -->

007 GoldenEye
Banjo Kazooie
Banjo Tooie
Batman Beyond: Return Of The Joker
Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina Of Time
Mario Party 1
Mario Party 2
Mario Party 3
Mega Man 64
Mortal Kombat Trilogy
Paper Mario
Perfect Dark
Pokemon Snap
Pokemon Stadium 2
-------------------------------------------------------
Once I get a majority of cases done (aka, more than the 5 I have done), Ill upload and I think that will force admins to accept them.  If I upload 5 now.. I might end up quit making them (like Shenske ended up doing).  So, to pay tribute to this idea, I'ma keep pumping these out as fast as I get good raws!  Please scan your covers!
Super Mario 64

[AppleQueso]

yeah I have 6 of those, but no scanner

[TheValeman]

I am somewhat annoyed at the tone of this post to be honest. A lot of people spent a considerable amount of money aquiring the boxes in an attempt to get all covers available for people to use and this is what we get?

Some of you should try acquiring decent boxes for the N64. I personally spent hundreds of dollars getting them from Ebay etc and the boxes weren't always the quality the seller advertised. These things are getting harder and harder to obtain ...that's the nature of the beast when dealing with cardboard boxes. The boxes were scanned at 300dpi and formatted for Universal Game cases as these were the cheapest way of protecting carts etc.

How many actual scans have some of you provided? How many N64 boxes have you purchased? Before you go mouthing off about the quality of existing content maybe you should actually contribute to the cause. You might just appreciate the price some people have paid just getting to where we are at today.

[ShoothimNow]

umm ok... ill start uploading my 50 boxes right now as I planned... thanks for being an ass...  way to shoot the gun there tex.  Check the raws section first... dude...

How many actual scans have some of you provided?

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Im looking at over 100 covers I have uploaded, what, am I still a noob to you? Is that not enough for your standards?  You want to give me attitude for asking for some scans so we can tidy up the site?  F*** you sir.  No, your not funny.  No, I am not trying to be.  You want to tell me that I have done jack s*** on this site, then f*** you.  I stated in the beginning "I am embarrassed to ask this for worry of being flamed" and that is exactly why.  You don't get the point.  Technology has been outdated, now we have new.  New works better.  Some people have cases I don't have, so that it would be nice for some rescans to touch up the covers already created.  Yes, it is extremely convenient that there are covers up and someone who has time can touch them up with these as a reference, but a new scan on a better scanner would be greatly appreciated.

I have been in search for the red flap, yellow flap, and purple US spine for Super Mario 64 for soo long it isn't funny.  I dont own the box.  Maybe I should just go buy it instead of asking admins because they always give me a freaking hard time.  Would be less of a hassle instead of pleasing ignorant people.  

Before you go mouthing off about the quality of existing content maybe you should actually contribute to the cause

I did and I have... ***....

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Nows a better time than any...
N64 - Armorines (Front)
N64 - Armorines (Back)
N64 - Army Men Air Combat (Front)
N64 - Army Men Air Combat (Back)

Now I feel like my scans aren't worth enough for TheValeman's love.  He missed the scans to start off with, and now re-reading his post, it sounds like the N64 cases are fine.  So... I'll just... stop...

N64 - Automobili Lamborghini (front)

Opps... right... I'm stopping

rage

[TheValeman]

Your problem ... not mine ... if you want to go apeshit over someone not appreciating the tone your comments over other people's work then if that makes you happy go right ahead. This whole business is a hobby .... and an illegal one at that if you consider the copyright infringements going on here. Some people take things way too seriously .... I did when I purchased truckloads of boxes off E-Bay purely to contribute to this place for instance. Obviously you do too. You weren't around at the time maybe maybe a half dozen off us were trying to get the N64 section to where it is today. As a site it relies on people contributing and there were piss-all of us at the time. If we'd known people were going to make verticals or complete mini's and needed the flaps we'd have posted them.

Personally, I think vertical covers are total and utter crap. They don't reflect the way the original creators wanted their artwork seen, otherwise they would've created ... oh I don't know ... vertical covers in the first place ALA the Jap N64 covers. But while I have an opinion on those I don't go around saying that vertical covers are crap. That's plain disrespectful of the effort they may have put into creating them etc.

Lastly, am I psychic and meant to know that you weren't posting scans under your forum name? And even if you did post under your forum name it wouldn't have stopped me saying the tone of your comments weren't particularly nice. Everyone has an opinion and is allowed to express it. You did. So did I. But you don't see me deleting my stuff because of it. If I did you could kiss goodbye to 70% of the N64 content here and I could easily do so if I wanted to.

[ShoothimNow]

As a site it relies on people contributing and there were piss-all of us at the time. If we'd known people were going to make verticals or complete mini's and needed the flaps we'd have posted them.

facepalm... this is why I am asking for scans... And your rage pertains to new N64 scans how?  The ones we have are crap, sorry, its the truth.  Scan some new scans to get rid of the old.  Don't scan your covers if you don't want.  Could care less.  If no one wants to rescan, hope everyone is happy with stickers on their covers.

I am just so grateful that here at TCP we are honoring those artists by

reflecting the way the original creators wanted their artwork seen

with stickers.

Still squinting my eyes trying to get the hidden message where you are telling me that new N64 scans are useless... I don't exactly see your point of view.  All you are basically saying is that I am completely ungrateful with the covers that you have and that you have the power to remove them because I am being an ass by stating they are useless.  Well, I don't want to sound like I am doing your job... but I only asked for new N64 scans, not completed cases, but scans (RAWS).  I still don't grasp your concept on why that is so hard..

relies on people contributing and there were piss-all of us at the time

Key word --> all of us at the time

That was then, this is now.  People are not re-uploading N64 cases because once someone stated "COMPLETE N64 SECTION", scans for the N64 has become rare.  Trying to re-boost the quality of the site, and out of all the people here, I think an ADMIN would appreciate that

[TheValeman]

Nothing in either of my comments indicates RAGE. I merely reflected that the tone of the comments was disrepectful to SMMM, wishbrngr and a few others who bought boxes to create the ones already here. None of us would ever state that ALL the covers here are the best anyway .. we worked with what we were able to acquire at the time. Unfortunately, with the N64 which was pretty much dead by 2000 we were acquiring 7+ year old boxes at the time. Really ...if you wanted to rage at anyone you should've directed it at Nintendo ...the only idiots who thought cardboard boxes were a durable format. Doh!!!!

But hey ... if you can acquire better boxes for these things then by all means go for it. I sold my N64 gear .... I live downunder and only acquired USA NTSC boxes for this place [PAL here] .... so there's no way I can rescan them for you. Just be prepared for sticker shock .... the price of this stuff is just plain ridiculous most of the time. What you'll find though is there are plenty of people waiting to grab and run and sweet FA that actively contribute ... so it will probably be a while getting something you want. I scan old mags for another site ... same thing there ... no thanks, plenty of moaning ... so maybe my attitude comes from seeing this a little too often?

[AppleQueso]

I'm with ShootHimNow on this honestly.

The way I'm reading this is:
Upload a cover with a blurry front logo: "Sorry, we have strict quality standards and this won't pass"
Talk about re-scanning covers which no longer meet the site's quality standards: "You jerk you're being disrespectful"

Everything I've seen in these forums about this site has been about its quality standards. I don't think what ShootHimNow was asking is at all out of line or even remotely disrespectful. If anything I'd say TheValeman was being disrespectful.

I feel kinda bad for ShootHimNow right now, his time on this forum hasn't been totally pleasant and it's not really any fault of his own. First he gets accused of being a pirate and now he's getting griped out by an admin for asking us to help up the quality standards of a few games in our NTSC n64 collection, a request that's perfectly in-line with the site's goals.