Author Topic: Dreamcast Custom DVD Covers  (Read 4539 times)

February 16, 2007, 02:34:36 AM
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Maybe I'm not getting it but I do not understand the point of SMMM....

Why are ROMs and emulation encouraged by those covers???

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February 16, 2007, 03:53:23 AM
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There were never official NES/SNES or GBA compilations for Dreamcast. Some homebrew programmers programmed emulators for various systems in order to play NES or other ROMS on the Dreamcast. ROMS are illegal if you don't own the original game. It's like renting a PS2 game and make an ISO. I have ROMS of all my old (pre-PS1) games so that I can play them on my laptop or take them with me to a friend, but I don't have any ROMS that I don't own the original game to. To me it just feels wrong, like stealing. And it takes away the fun (and pride) of building your private game collection because downloading the ROMS is much easier and less expensive than searching eBay for games you'd like to play.

So, if people see these covers for emulated systems, they might feel inclined to download ROMS. Some of them might even hear about the possibility of emulating other consoles on DC here first. So I'm with SMMM on this one. Maybe not banning the covers but clearly dissociate from (illegitimate) emulating.

The Half-Life for DC is another thing. The game was finished, ready to be shipped and just a few weeks from release they decided not to publish it. Somehow a (press?)-version was leaked on the net, fully playable on the DC.
I know this is a double standard but I wouldn't consider owning that game stealing as it was never released in the first place. There was no limited release, no demo, no nothing, there was NO way of getting that game other than downloading it even if you WANTED to buy it. Basically, it could be considered trash, the company wouldn't release it and threw it away. Yes, this is legal limbo but I definitely prefer (and understand) the people who download Half-Life for Dreamcast to the criminals who download PS2 or Xbox360 ISOS.

February 16, 2007, 04:15:28 AM
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Ahhhh.... Now I understand.... I thought SMMM meant something about the cutsom dreamcast covers and emulation.... *g*
I was on the false train I think....  ;D

Regarding emulation and ROMs.... I understand your points especially about emultaion of PS2 and XBOX360.... I never knew you could emulate older systems on the DC! I've played emus on the PC for SNES, NES, N64 and so on but it never felt right so I started buying and collecting old games... So in a way emus brought me to buying originals rather then pulling me away from it.... Maybe that'S not the case usually! :)

Anyway! I understand now what was meant and I have to say I wouldn' want to have emu covers either! For what???

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February 16, 2007, 07:30:56 AM
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Those covers actually encourage ROMS and Emulation.  I'm not to sure we should have those here.

In reality the whole site supports backups... but I see what you're saying.

If we dont draw a line somewhere, TCP will get shut down like every other cover site. 

February 16, 2007, 10:30:02 AM
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Those covers actually encourage ROMS and Emulation.  I'm not to sure we should have those here.

In reality the whole site supports backups... but I see what you're saying.

If we dont draw a line somewhere, TCP will get shut down like every other cover site. 

What other cover sites got shut down? CoverGalaxy's been going for a while, as has cdcovers.cc (but they only have 72dpi scans, so fuck them).

February 24, 2007, 06:27:06 PM
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Those covers actually encourage ROMS and Emulation.  I'm not to sure we should have those here.

In reality the whole site supports backups... but I see what you're saying.

If we dont draw a line somewhere, TCP will get shut down like every other cover site. 

What other cover sites got shut down? CoverGalaxy's been going for a while, as has cdcovers.cc (but they only have 72dpi scans, so fuck them).

Let me rephrase, every AMERICAN Game cover site.  And this was 3-4 years ago.. I assume most companies are over it now... but I wouldnt stir shit up.

February 24, 2007, 07:39:42 PM
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just put up a disclaimer saying that tcp is not affiliated with anything that is hosting here and has no ownership of it or something.

February 25, 2007, 01:43:41 AM
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It's not about "getting in trouble".  It just makes me feel uneasy from a moral stand-point.  I'm pretty sure this site wasn't created under the purpose of giving pirated materials a pretty face.  The way I see it, it was created under the intention of giving games you or somebody else already own a prettier face (or a face at all), and for artists to come show off/improve their skills.  Using it for piracy seems to.."pervert" the purpose.

Now, I have no doubt that that's what some people have been doing with the covers.  But to actually have covers like the ones in the OP just seems like a big slap in the face, if that makes any sense.