Author Topic: So what do you guys use to play old games on HDTV's?  (Read 611 times)

October 02, 2020, 08:21:07 AM
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But only insane IT guys like me with family members that were engineers try this level of planning. LOL

IT guy here, can confirm.

This is my current setup.  I'm actually working on redoing the whole thing as I've invested in HD Retrovision cables.   Just waiting on that Dreamcast cable to hit before I tear everything out.





October 02, 2020, 08:25:56 AM
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Damn lol, you guys take this to a whole new level.  :) I plan to play anything pre-PS1 era mostly.

October 02, 2020, 10:03:35 AM
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IT guy here, can confirm.

This is my current setup.  I'm actually working on redoing the whole thing as I've invested in HD Retrovision cables.   Just waiting on that Dreamcast cable to hit before I tear everything out.


What program is that?

October 02, 2020, 10:05:40 AM
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Nice; I knew there had to be at least one other person here that went that extra mile, haha.

Vypertech, if you plan to play just pre-PS1 consoles, you will probably be fine with just using your consoles as-is. In most cases (especially if you don't mind not having top-quality visuals) modding is not necessary. Just get whatever the best cables are that you can get ahold of at a price you're comfortable paying, plug 'em into your console and RetroTINK/OSSC, plug the HDMI into your TV and have some fun.

If you have some time to spare to go down the rabbit hole a little bit, check out My Life in Gaming on YouTube. They have a series of videos called the RGB Master Class, which is basically a crash-course on this kind of stuff. They also frequently do spotlights/reviews on mods and stuff like the OSSC and RetroTINK products so that you know what to expect.

October 02, 2020, 10:32:26 AM
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Been playing the nes on the 1080,. would like a cleaner sharper pic, scanline and other options are a plus etc.

October 02, 2020, 11:20:18 AM
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IT guy here, can confirm.

This is my current setup.  I'm actually working on redoing the whole thing as I've invested in HD Retrovision cables.   Just waiting on that Dreamcast cable to hit before I tear everything out.


What program is that?

Microsoft Visio. 


October 02, 2020, 11:39:25 AM
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IT guy here, can confirm.

This is my current setup.  I'm actually working on redoing the whole thing as I've invested in HD Retrovision cables.   Just waiting on that Dreamcast cable to hit before I tear everything out.


What program is that?

Microsoft Visio.

Damnit. My offcie will not spring for that license for me. I want it, but they just keep saying no.

October 02, 2020, 12:17:46 PM
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IT guy here, can confirm.

This is my current setup.  I'm actually working on redoing the whole thing as I've invested in HD Retrovision cables.   Just waiting on that Dreamcast cable to hit before I tear everything out.


What program is that?

Microsoft Visio.

Damnit. My offcie will not spring for that license for me. I want it, but they just keep saying no.

Ah, I control all that at my place so... :P

Speaking of, here's the proposed new setup.  Just got to get the Dreamcast cable and get my N64 modded.  I might look into getting the PC Engine Duo-R modded and I need to see about getting the Game Gear switched over to S-Video.  Everything else will probably stay as is unless the NES mod gets cheaper.

« Last Edit: October 02, 2020, 12:23:50 PM by Bear78 »


October 02, 2020, 12:19:18 PM
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There is a really good upscale converter. It's called XRGB-Mini Framemeister. It has been discontinued and is very expensive. Here is a video about it: https://youtu.be/43dzrCAfU3A.

October 02, 2020, 12:41:52 PM
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Been playing the nes on the 1080,. would like a cleaner sharper pic, scanline and other options are a plus etc.
If you want to get cleaner video out of an NES, some of the RetroTINK products have "comb filters" intended to clean up the composite signal a bit, but it won't be performing miracles. If you want nice, sharp pixels coming out of your NES, I've got 3 options to mention:

1) NESRGB mod. This mod will give you nice, clean pixels at the system's original 240p resolution by adding RGB capabilities to the original system. This requires purchase of a special mod kit from Tim Worthington, the mod's creator. If you are unable to install the mod yourself, then you will also need to hire someone to install it. Luckily, there are no shortage of skilled installers. During installation, most modders will allow you to tweak your install with upgrades like a Nintendo multi-out port so you can use HD Retrovision's SNES cable, the ability to toggle between different color palettes, and more.

2) Hi-Def NES HDMI mod. Similar to the NESRGB mod, this mod adds the ability to your NES to output crispy, clear pixels via HDMI at 480p, 720p and 1080p, with the added bonuses of having WAY more "behind the scenes" options available to you. However, GametechUS, who distributes these boards, is currently sold out of their stock due to one or more of the required components to build them no longer being produced.

3) AVS system. It's an FPGA-based console like the Analogue NT, but available at a fraction of the price. It goes up to 720p via HDMI and is compatible with both NES and Famicom carts. It looks very nice; I nearly bought one myself but decided to go with an NESRGB install instead.

All of these options are going to cost a considerable bit of pocket change (especially the Hi-Def NES board, if you can find it, since it's not being produced for the time being). If you go with the NESRGB, you will still need an OSSC or RetroTINK to transcode the analog signal to HDMI, but it will look great. If you get the AVS, you can just plug directly into your TV, but you'll still want to pick up an OSSC or RetroTINK for your other consoles.

As Olmec would say in 'Legends of the Hidden Temple', "The choice is yours...and yours alone!"

Speaking of, here's the proposed new setup.  Just got to get the Dreamcast cable and get my N64 modded.  I might look into getting the PC Engine Duo-R modded and I need to see about getting the Game Gear switched over to S-Video.  Everything else will probably stay as is unless the NES mod gets cheaper.
Looks good. The Dreamcast cable is my last holdout as well. Way easier for me to just deal with a full YPbPr setup.

When you get your N64 modded, go for the Advanced version of the board and have it flashed with borti's firmware that allows you to toggle disabling of the N64's internal antialiasing. It really helps to clean up those visuals.
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October 04, 2020, 03:50:44 PM
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I use a OSSC and all my systems run through RGB (or the EON64 in the case of the N64). It looks pretty good and doesn't add any frames of lag.


I have covers for most Disc based games. Let me know if you need something scanned.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ass9N9wZGkeQvFgTGcaq6mq1BYXdwg9OAUQF9ZACDIc/edit?usp=sha

October 05, 2020, 09:02:58 PM
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I have my 11 "retro" consoles (NES,SNES,N64,GCube,Wii,Xbox,PS1,PS2,Master System,Genesis,Saturn) plugged into two 6-port Otaku SCART/Component switches, both of which plug into a single component switch, which then goes into an OSSC. All connected with the excellent HD Retrovision cables. Still waiting on those Dreamcast component cables!