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| AppleQueso:
--- Quote from: the7k on June 21, 2009, 01:26:55 PM ---While the series definitely peaked at FFVI, I didn't think FFVII was bad. Not 'teh best gaem evar OMG ROFLCOPTER!', but a decent RPG. I certainly haven't been able to play a Final Fantasy after they decided that the character design in FFVIII was the best character design ever and that all other FF games should strive to emulate it. The utterly colorless designs of FFVIII is one of my (many) grievances with that game. I treasure Square for the contributions they made in the SNES and PSX era. In the SNES era, they made the best RPGs, period. FFIV, FFVI, Chrono Trigger, Bahamut Lagoon, Secret of Mana, Super Mario RPG, Seiken Densetsu 3 - they were a force to be reckoned with. Then in the PSX era, while their RPGs were starting to lack, they began branching out with some really great titles. Tobal, Bushido Blade, Final Fantasy Tactics, Brave Fencer Musashi, Threads of Fate, Legend of Mana, Vagrant Story. The when the PS2 era hits, what do we get? At first, we get The Bouncer, which was a nice effort - but shortly after that, Square Soft becomes Square Enix, and we then get nothing but a bunch of Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy entries. Wake me when this nightmare ends. --- End quote --- Which do you prefer, colorless FFVIII or fashion victim FFX? It really is a shame what happened to Square during the ps2 era, though really it seems like it was nearly universal. None of the follow ups to the great ps1 rpgs from anybody seemed to really stack up. Star Ocean 3 was terrible, Xenosaga was more of a movie with unfinished gameplay tacked on, I could go on. |
| the7k:
--- Quote from: z0mbiew0lf on June 21, 2009, 04:37:22 PM ---Hey, I really liked the Bouncer :P --- End quote --- I wasn't knocking the Bouncer. I'd actually like to get it, as I am a beat 'em up fan. I was knocking all the Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts crap that followed in the wake of the Bouncer. --- Quote from: AppleQueso on June 22, 2009, 10:40:48 AM ---It really is a shame what happened to Square during the ps2 era, though really it seems like it was nearly universal. None of the follow ups to the great ps1 rpgs from anybody seemed to really stack up. Star Ocean 3 was terrible, Xenosaga was more of a movie with unfinished gameplay tacked on, I could go on. --- End quote --- Well, as for Star Ocean, tri-Ace really began to suffer after it became so deeply involved with - guess who? - Square Enix. As for Namco... honestly, I was never much of a fan of Namco's RPGs to begin with. Tales of Phantasia was a great concept - mixing 2D Fighters with RPGs - but the series soon became nothing but attack spamming. If they had implemented more of the tactical and technical aspects of 2D Fighters, rather than just fireball spamming and button mashing, it would have been a whole heck of a lot better. I think RPGs have been going downhill because of Square Enix's changes. When Square Enix vomits in a keep case and people buy it in droves, its competition will think it can do the same thing. |
| Velmeran:
--- Quote ---I think RPGs have been going downhill because of Square Enix's changes. When Square Enix vomits in a keep case and people buy it in droves, its competition will think it can do the same thing. --- End quote --- Part, or most likely a large reason, is because of typically how well the Square-Enix RPG's sell. And while Squaresoft had some issues with it's titles most of the issues stem from the Merger with Enix and the leadership changes. DragonQuest was being dominated in sales both locally in Japan and globally.. yet because of the FF:TSW disaster, Enix had the upperhand. Some very key members of Squaresoft were either forced to leave, or have since left on their own and their departures is very much felt. Then again, it's very much a preference on most things, as can be seen in sales of the KH series and FF games. I personally really enjoyed every FF from 1-12, with faves being FFT, FF12 and FF7 *shrugs* I'd love to see more Ivalice based RPG's but I like many do long for a return to the 'classic' feel of 4 or 3. |
| tiktektak:
Hmmm... I also liked Kingdom Hearts.... *ducks behind a boulder* ;D |
| juan0tron:
Yeah Kingdom Hearts 2 felt like a solid game control wise, and I've like the series ever since middle school :P. I would like to see more games like The World End With You though, cause that game was awesome and actually felt fresh.(I'd even go for another Bouncer type game) I'm actually more interested in Atlus these days after playing something as awesome as Persona 4. And I don't know about anyone else, but doesn't Sion from the Bouncer have quite a striking resemblance to Sora? |
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