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| Tech13:
ok let me shed some light here... 1) Smash will be played in tournaments despite what the big N wants. 2) the best controller layout is widely accepted as the Gamecube controller for the game, and N get to charge a premium for remaking the controller over and over again. Professional smash players usually buy anywhere from 4 to 12 gamecube controllers on a yearly basis. so big money to be made there. 3) Wireless controllers have lag. the basic layout of a wireless controller is button press > Encode > Transmit > receive > Decode > input to game. 4) most wireless controllers have a limited number of communication channels available (example the wavebird has 16 I think) Thus crosstalk and interference can happen, and in some rare cases cheating or sabotage. This is why wireless controllers are banned in most serious tournaments. they don't want to hear the excuses. "X person jumped on my signal and messed me up" |
| wiggy:
--- Quote from: Dr.Agon on November 08, 2018, 08:27:19 AM ---whats the big deal with the GC controller and smash? ??? it seems every time a smash game comes out someone wants to shoehorn in GC support... (not a smash player, educate me!) --- End quote --- I’m still trying to wrap my head around the insane popularity and appeal of SSB itself, let alone why a nearly 20 year old controller design is like the ONLY one that can be used. --- Quote from: Tech13 on November 08, 2018, 08:54:33 AM ---ok let me shed some light here... 1) Smash will be played in tournaments despite what the big N wants. 2) the best controller layout is widely accepted as the Gamecube controller for the game, and N get to charge a premium for remaking the controller over and over again. Professional smash players usually buy anywhere from 4 to 12 gamecube controllers on a yearly basis. so big money to be made there. 3) Wireless controllers have lag. the basic layout of a wireless controller is button press > Encode > Transmit > receive > Decode > input to game. 4) most wireless controllers have a limited number of communication channels available (example the wavebird has 16 I think) Thus crosstalk and interference can happen, and in some rare cases cheating or sabotage. This is why wireless controllers are banned in most serious tournaments. they don't want to hear the excuses. "X person jumped on my signal and messed me up" --- End quote --- Wired controllers use the same process though. The only difference is the means by which the code is transmitted (via wire vs RF/BT/IR). The wave bird used RF, modern controllers (by in large) use Bluetooth. The whole channel thing isn’t an issue, since BT requires a “handshake” between devices, eliminating the whole blind transmission issues that come along with RF. Lag shouldn’t be an issue either, assuming that the device is well engineered. |
| Tech13:
--- Quote from: wiggy on November 08, 2018, 09:10:44 AM --- Lag shouldn’t be an issue either, assuming that the device is well engineered. --- End quote --- There is the mistake. Assuming that it is a quality product and not something designed to gain as much profit as possible. The Smash craze always happens and it always brings the vipers out of their nests. Selling their snakeoil products that promise the world. Don't get me wrong there may be some perfectly good products out there at a reasonable price, but don't expect tournament quality products below $70. |
| Megatron:
Snake oil? This is 8bitdo, not ATgames or madcatz. Ive used several of their products and theyre all great. I doubt this will be different. And I don't think this is catering toward the tournament smash crowd. Any tournament player will tell you that you either play wired, or you don't play. This is simply a nice device that people like me will use to play Smash on the couch, for the 10 or 12 times I actually play it. |
| TDIRunner:
When I brought up Smash, I wasn't really referring to tournaments. Even outside of tournaments, GC controllers are still a big deal for those who are into Smash, and any detectable lag will be a deal breaker for most. |
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