I never realized there were two versions of Sonic Spinball!

[tylerbgood]

I just watched a "Did You Know Gaming" video on YouTube about Sonic the Hedgehog. One of the pieces of trivia was that the initial US release of Sonic Spinball had unlicensed music included in the soundtrack. Sega caught the mistake early and modified the game by replacing the offending songs. But they had already released a number of copies with the original soundtrack to retailers and they were sold to the general public. I don't think there's any distinguishing visual indicators on the box, you have to listen to the music on the cart. The audio differences are featured at the bottom of this Cutting Room Floor page: https://tcrf.net/Sonic_Spinball_(Genesis).

Does anyone here in the forums have the first version of the cartridge with the rare musical score? I checked mine and it's a later copy. There is always something new to collect!

[SegaNomadman]

I've never been able to find one of the first runs. Since there's no physical difference between the two versions other than playing them, I've basically resorted to buying any copies I find. I really don't know how many were produced though.

[Bear78]

There's 3 different versions of Revenge of Shinobi due to licensing issues (Batman, Spider-man, Godzilla).  Again, you have to play the game to know what version you have.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Revenge_of_Shinobi

[tylerbgood]

There's 3 different versions of Revenge of Shinobi

That's wild. I wonder how often games were patched back in the time before the internet. These days it seems like every game that is released gets patched to fix bugs and exploits. I know the game code was a lot smaller back then, but there still had to have been game-breaking bugs in some old releases that had to be fixed.

[wiggy]

There's 3 different versions of Revenge of Shinobi

That's wild. I wonder how often games were patched back in the time before the internet. These days it seems like every game that is released gets patched to fix bugs and exploits. I know the game code was a lot smaller back then, but there still had to have been game-breaking bugs in some old releases that had to be fixed.

And there occasionally were, but most often it just meant you (the customer) were stuck with a busted game.


Turok Rage Wars comes to mind as an exception.  Had a massive game-breaking glitch, and since it was a high profile game, Acclaim offered a fixed version for anyone who owned the game.  Trouble is, back then the web isn't what it is today, so reaching those customers was tricky.  But that's where the gray cart variant of Rage Wars came from; it's the corrected version.

[TDIRunner]

There's 3 different versions of Revenge of Shinobi

That's wild. I wonder how often games were patched back in the time before the internet. These days it seems like every game that is released gets patched to fix bugs and exploits. I know the game code was a lot smaller back then, but there still had to have been game-breaking bugs in some old releases that had to be fixed.

And there occasionally were, but most often it just meant you (the customer) were stuck with a busted game.


Turok Rage Wars comes to mind as an exception.  Had a massive game-breaking glitch, and since it was a high profile game, Acclaim offered a fixed version for anyone who owned the game.  Trouble is, back then the web isn't what it is today, so reaching those customers was tricky.  But that's where the gray cart variant of Rage Wars came from; it's the corrected version.

As an accountant, I can't help but think about the difference in cost in producing a replacement cart (especially an expensive N64 cart) to fix a bug compared to a downloadable patch for a modern game.  Wow. 

[Bear78]

There's 3 different versions of Revenge of Shinobi

That's wild. I wonder how often games were patched back in the time before the internet. These days it seems like every game that is released gets patched to fix bugs and exploits. I know the game code was a lot smaller back then, but there still had to have been game-breaking bugs in some old releases that had to be fixed.

And there occasionally were, but most often it just meant you (the customer) were stuck with a busted game.


Turok Rage Wars comes to mind as an exception.  Had a massive game-breaking glitch, and since it was a high profile game, Acclaim offered a fixed version for anyone who owned the game.  Trouble is, back then the web isn't what it is today, so reaching those customers was tricky.  But that's where the gray cart variant of Rage Wars came from; it's the corrected version.

A good amount of PS1 Greatest Hits got patched also.  I know one of the Spyro's has a game breaking glitch that got patched in the GH version.   A lot of the time, at least for PS1, the GH version is the better version of the game... just has that ugly green bar...

[TDIRunner]

Gran Turismo 2 also has a glitch that makes it impossible to 100% the game.  If you win and complete every race, the highest percentage you can achieve is somewhere around 98.5%.  I believe it was fixed for later releases. 

[tylerbgood]

Gran Turismo 2 also has a glitch that makes it impossible to 100% the game.  If you win and complete every race, the highest percentage you can achieve is somewhere around 98.5%.  I believe it was fixed for later releases. 

This reminds me of Fallout 3 and New Vegas. Both games are so incredibly glitchy on consoles. There are achievements in both that I was unable to get because of game bugs. I love those games dearly, but they're so much better on PC after installing the unofficial patches that fix the mountain of issues present in both. Oblivion also suffers from the same problem.

[marioxb]

A good amount of PS1 Greatest Hits got patched also.  I know one of the Spyro's has a game breaking glitch that got patched in the GH version.   A lot of the time, at least for PS1, the GH version is the better version of the game... just has that ugly green bar...

Silent Hill 2 GH on PS2 adds the extra stuff from the Xbox version. Someone told me some F1 game on PS1 has more stuff in GH. Even Nintendo did this with the Nintendo Selects Animal Crossing on 3DS adding Amiibo stuff.

[e_brugal]

There's 3 different versions of Revenge of Shinobi

That's wild. I wonder how often games were patched back in the time before the internet. These days it seems like every game that is released gets patched to fix bugs and exploits. I know the game code was a lot smaller back then, but there still had to have been game-breaking bugs in some old releases that had to be fixed.

And there occasionally were, but most often it just meant you (the customer) were stuck with a busted game.


Turok Rage Wars comes to mind as an exception.  Had a massive game-breaking glitch, and since it was a high profile game, Acclaim offered a fixed version for anyone who owned the game.  Trouble is, back then the web isn't what it is today, so reaching those customers was tricky.  But that's where the gray cart variant of Rage Wars came from; it's the corrected version.

A good amount of PS1 Greatest Hits got patched also.  I know one of the Spyro's has a game breaking glitch that got patched in the GH version.   A lot of the time, at least for PS1, the GH version is the better version of the game... just has that ugly green bar...

I hate GH  for the aame reason, the ugly green bar. I always try not to buy  them, but now with all the thing you are saying I think I will change my mind in the future.

[marioxb]

That's what this site is for. Replace that ugly green with a printout of a normal version! That's what I do. Who cares if it's not the "correct" cover?

[TDIRunner]

Some of the PS1 GH titles also added analog support for games that were released before the analog controller was a thing.  For some reason, Resident Evil 2 comes to mind, but I might not be remembering correctly. 

The funny thing too is that the GH title is also very often less common than the black label version due to the number of copies that had to be sold before it would qualify as GH.

[marioxb]

I think it was Resident Evil 1. Probably the most re-released PS1 game in the US:

Original long box
Probably a long "Saturn style" case version
Jewel case of above
Directors Cut with RE2 demo
Directors Cut without demo
Directors Cut, Dual shock, GH version

Funny thing, the Directors Cut never uncensored the intro in the US, like it was supposed to.

[e_brugal]

That's what this site is for. Replace that ugly green with a printout of a normal version! That's what I do. Who cares if it's not the "correct" cover?

In my case, I do  .

Ps1, ps2, ps3, ps4, GC, Wii, Wii U, switch, everything that didn't came on carton box I prefer the original cover (by original I refer buying a CIB game. In the few GH games that I have, I make my own spine (just the spine), that way on a shelf it looks like is not a GH . 

http://www.thecoverproject.net/forums/index.php?topic=15757.msg146458#msg146458