Author Topic: November 2017 Pickups  (Read 1394 times)

November 17, 2017, 04:43:56 AM
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If he is patching the games with the translation patch and selling it, he isn't selling the patch.  He's selling a modified piece of hardware.  You can argue semantics, but there is a clear difference between selling someone a piece of hardware and charging for parts and labor vs selling the free patch itself on a memory card or cd, making you do it all yourself.
If someone uploads a patch to free sites, then they clearly intend for people to use it.  Many patchers also give themselves credit somewhere in the game's text.  Selling a patched copy of the game requires the tools to actually do so.  Anyone can patch a rom, but patching an actual cart requires time, materials and costs.  Selling to recoup ones cost and time is fairly standard.
If that is worth money is up to the buyer to decide.

...no idea if he's trying to pass on patched games as legit copies - THAT would be illegal and unethical
« Last Edit: November 17, 2017, 04:47:27 AM by Megatron »

November 17, 2017, 06:45:53 AM
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But with regards to using translations and whatnot without permission, who doesn't?   That's pretty much the motto of 99% of repro makers out there.  The way I look at it, if you put all that work in and released it for free, then why does it matter if someone else is using it to create a salable product?

Taking a fans hard work that is meant to be free and selling it without their permission is just low. You could apply this to covers, music remixes, fan art. ..It's just not cool.
Sure, some people don't mind what happens with their work, but you would have to ask them obviously.

He clearly puts a TON of work and time into these games himself.  

Probably a small fraction compared to the work some of these people put into their projects.

It's not like the guys out there who slap a label on a crappy snap together SNES cart shell and sell em for $50+, having spent about $15 and put in virtually zero time or creative effort.

I don't see how that makes it ok. The fan who made the project isn't going to tell his friend, "Some guy stole my hard work and is charging 50 bucks a pop for it. But he threw in some bobbles and nice art prints so its all good."

As far as over-priced goes, hardly.  You truly getting what you pay for with his products.

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I’m not saying that it makes it ok so much as I’m saying why does Tobias get so much flak, when people have been doing the same thing for years. I never heard any bitching and moaning about Timewalk when they were around, and they sold more snes and nes repros than most anyone else.

Here’s the thing. The translators/ROM hackers put that stuff out there for free.  Nobody is “stealing” from them. The theft is from the original IP owner.  There’s demand for physical copies of these games which are otherwise unavailable, so they should only expect that people will try to satisfy that market. I’ve made my fair share of repros and I’ve been given my fair share of shit by people because of it.  Some people just hate the idea altogether. Some people just love em regardless.

I will tell you this, I did (or at least made an effort to) get the permission from the translators/hackers for at least the last 4 repro packages we made.  Mother 25th, legend of link, Marvelous, & Hyper Metroid.  Two of those guys wanted absolutely nothing from me and we’re just happy to have the hacks put on to carts. One guy just never got back to me after several attempts. And one guy made me think that reaching out to these guys probably isn’t worth it, yet we still worked out an arrangement and the project went forward.

As far as a “small fraction” goes, I beg to differ. I know exactly what it takes to do what Tobias does. It’s easy to knock it without experiencing and understanding it.  Besides, that’s really what’s being sold in a repro package anyway. You can just burn those ISOs to a CD and play em on your Turbo Duo for the cost of a CD-R.  Anyone can do it. So what are people really paying for?  

The packaging/presentation. People want it to look and feel like a retail product, and boy does it ever.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2017, 06:47:46 AM by wiggy »

November 19, 2017, 07:20:10 PM
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Hit the LucasArts jackpot at Goodwill today!



November 19, 2017, 10:29:23 PM
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Yes, yes the LucasArts classic, ChexQuest!

November 20, 2017, 12:39:11 AM
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So I got a few things so far and happy with all of them.













 



I love hunting during christmas on ebay!
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November 20, 2017, 10:37:36 AM
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This is technically a combined haul from a couple of trips, but the majority came from Saturday. $1 each from a Habitat for Humanity store called "ReStore".


November 28, 2017, 07:09:36 AM
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Bit prematurely but I'll probably buy new TV today.
It's LG 65" 4K UHD LED Smart TV model number: 65UJ634V.

New just under 900 Euros.

Edit: Now I has it.
It's somewhat bigger than I imagined though...
« Last Edit: November 28, 2017, 09:09:25 AM by Arseen »

November 28, 2017, 12:37:31 PM
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Bit prematurely but I'll probably buy new TV today.
It's LG 65" 4K UHD LED Smart TV model number: 65UJ634V.

New just under 900 Euros.

Edit: Now I has it.
It's somewhat bigger than I imagined though...

Believe me you will get used to it pretty fast!

And congrats on the purchase! I would have gone for an OLED if I were you. Best picture qual. available.
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November 28, 2017, 04:20:08 PM
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Believe me you will get used to it pretty fast! And congrats on the purchase!
Probably.
And thank you.
Me and my brother are about to start setting it up.I didn't have time earlier as I just came back from watching hockey game (highest Finnish league)... Our team was beaten 0-4... Oh well we're still above the straight to the playoffs line at half season.
Which is way better than last season when we were dead last with somewhat wide margin.

This season our other goalie is Jussi Markkanen, but today he was sitting on the bench.

I would have gone for an OLED if I were you. Best picture qual. available.
I know @ triple the price.
Curved could be nice... and maaaaybe 3D option.

November 28, 2017, 07:54:18 PM
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One more snes themed doohickey added to the collection :)


November 28, 2017, 09:35:23 PM
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Curved could be nice... and maaaaybe 3D option.

Meh.  I have 3D on my TV and I've only used it a handful of times and I don't think I've ever watched an entire movie completely through.  I wouldn't recommend it unless the TV is same price with or without (like mine was). 
Maybe, just once, someone will call me "sir" without adding, "you're making a scene."

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November 29, 2017, 01:09:08 AM
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Believe me you will get used to it pretty fast!
Probably
That was fast... it already seems almost normal.
Funny how without direct comparison my 65" doesn't feel much bigger than my brothers 55".
Well in few years I'll get 100" 8K 5D super OLED... only problem is that I can't fit that in my brothers car... 65" was quite snug fit and 70" might be too long already to carry safely (75" or 80" would fit at angle but that would not be safe for the TV).

November 29, 2017, 01:44:14 AM
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Curved could be nice... and maaaaybe 3D option.

Meh.  I have 3D on my TV and I've only used it a handful of times and I don't think I've ever watched an entire movie completely through.  I wouldn't recommend it unless the TV is same price with or without (like mine was). 

I still assert that 3D is a fad.  Like skinny jeans

November 29, 2017, 01:54:52 AM
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Curved could be nice... and maaaaybe 3D option.

Meh.  I have 3D on my TV and I've only used it a handful of times and I don't think I've ever watched an entire movie completely through.  I wouldn't recommend it unless the TV is same price with or without (like mine was). 

I still assert that 3D is a fad.  Like skinny jeans
I agree, but I do like how my skinny jeans lift and separate my fat arse.
And yes 3D can be fun but mostly it's pointless nauseationg pain in head.

November 29, 2017, 02:13:13 AM
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Oh and I just bought bus and boat tickets to Estonia so I can go fill my booze cabinet.

----- Start of rant -----
Funny how it's cheaper to buy 24 cans of beer or 2 liters of vodka from Estonia (2* 300KM on bus + 22h cruise (of which 4 hours (12 if you go discoing on the city instead of sleeping on the boat) time to visit the city of Tallin) instead of buying them from local alcohol shop, let alone if you'd live in Helsinki (no need for the bus so cheaper) where difference in price of 0.5 liters of Vodka would cover the 22h cruise.

No wonder Estonia scaled back on raising the alco tax when Finns and Estonians started visiting Latvia for the cheaper booze, instead of what Finnish coverment does = act happy when alco sales drop when taxes are raised (they act as they'd think Finns are sobering as booze bought from Estonia is not counted...).

As both Finland and Estonia are part of EU Finns can bring pretty much as much alcohol free from Finnish taxes as they please.
So Estonia gets tax money and Finland pays the negative effects of booze.
----- End of rant -----