Well that's pretty much bullshit

[TDIRunner]

One thing to keep in mind is that at $60 MSRP, they really aren't making that much money, regardless of how many they are selling.  Their focus really should be on the Switch. 

You can't say that for sure.  They may be making $10 per switch and $20 per NES classic.  It's all a matter of the cost associated with and quantity distributed for each product.

You're right I can't say it FOR SURE, but I can say it with 99% certainty that they are making more money on a Switch than they are with a Mini, not counting the endless number of accessories and games that will go with the Switch down the road. while the NES has no additional games and very few accessories. 

I'm a firm believer that the ONLY reason the Mini even exists is to make up for the fact that the Switch wasn't ready for Christmas, and the Mini kept everyone thinking about Nintendo through the holidays.  Casual gamers and non-gamers all over the country wanted a Mini for the holidays, and now that the Switch is available, their interest in the Mini (which was mostly impulse interest anyway) has switched over (no pun intended) to the Switch.  Also, keep in mind that the casual and non-gamers who wanted one, won't be that angry that they couldn't find one.  They simply won't care. 

The only unhappy customers are the die hard Nintendo gamers, and we are such a small group, it really doesn't matter to Nintendo if we are happy or not.   

[Hesch]

They simply won't care. 

The only unhappy customers are the die hard Nintendo gamers, and we are such a small group, it really doesn't matter to Nintendo if we are happy or not.   

I've never really seen any evidence that Nintendo cares what anyone thinks. Their design decisions always come across as "no, you're wrong, trust us, you'll love this."

They don't release the software OR hardware in the US that fans are begging them for. It's like the non japanese market is an afterthought.

Every device they've released since like the SNES has come with major design flaws and/or Achilles heels. Or just purposefully restricted/limited.

[Taketheword]

They simply won't care. 

The only unhappy customers are the die hard Nintendo gamers, and we are such a small group, it really doesn't matter to Nintendo if we are happy or not.   

I've never really seen any evidence that Nintendo cares what anyone thinks. Their design decisions always come across as "no, you're wrong, trust us, you'll love this."

They don't release the software OR hardware in the US that fans are begging them for. It's like the non japanese market is an afterthought.

Every device they've released since like the SNES has come with major design flaws and/or Achilles heels. Or just purposefully restricted/limited.

I don't really agree with this. I think sometimes Nintendo does things that they know will upset the consumer because they have to in order to recover. I will admit they seem to take the side of "We'll tell you what to like". As for most of their consoles having a major design flaw (N64 - Analog Stick, NGC - Disc Size, Wii - Outdated hardware), I would venture to say that is because they are always on the cutting edge of innovation. Sony and Microsoft are always on the leading edge of hardware, but Nintendo is always starting trends. But based on what I've seen lately, I would guess that Nintendo has really somewhat recovered from their years of stupidity. I think they may have genuinely underestimated their market for the NES Mini; they likely doubted their market considering the failure that was the Wii U. Nevertheless, in order for the Switch to be a success, they had to transition.

[wiggy]

They simply won't care. 

The only unhappy customers are the die hard Nintendo gamers, and we are such a small group, it really doesn't matter to Nintendo if we are happy or not.   

I've never really seen any evidence that Nintendo cares what anyone thinks. Their design decisions always come across as "no, you're wrong, trust us, you'll love this."

They don't release the software OR hardware in the US that fans are begging them for. It's like the non japanese market is an afterthought.

Every device they've released since like the SNES has come with major design flaws and/or Achilles heels. Or just purposefully restricted/limited.

Yet they're the only profitable hardware manufacturer.  They're not "doing it wrong", which seems to be the common misconception. You/We may not like how they do things, but one thing is clear, they're doing it just right.

Apple is the same way. Jobs made it very clear that he couldn't care less about what the customer thinks was a good idea or not. They aren't the designers and engineers hired to wow people. That (was) apple's job. And when you think about it, that's no different than any other business. You wouldn't listen to someone who came into your workspace with little or no experience in your field and tell you how to do your job, would you? 

Hell, people often tell me that I'm "doing it wrong". Yet here I am 4 years later with a business that I started with zero initial financial investment.  Can't be doing it all wrong

[Hesch]

I feel like the only thing they've gotten right is the collector's market. They re-release after re-release the same hardware with a .05% improvement, and people buy the same thing all over again. And I'll admit, I'm guilty of buying into it. And not to mention the different colors and art they do on some hardware. And then there's the amibo's.

A lot of their consoles feel like failed experiments to me, that they then just support until the unit is exhausted. Except for the Wii U, which they couldn't be bothered to support hardly at all.

I do agree that they try to innovate where Sony and Microsoft just try to one up each other. And that deserves recognition. But sometimes they take things too far, and try way too hard to be 'unique' or different.

And don't get me wrong in all of this. I enjoy their games. I'll buy their hardware. I'm just getting tired of their corporate attitude

[TDIRunner]

Whether or not anyone likes it or agree's with it, every move Nintendo makes is done to make them more profits.  It might not seem like it at times, but every time someone asks, "what was Nintendo thinking?," I can assure you that is the answer. 

[Too Beaucoup]

Because it's official Nintendo hardware, not some crappy printed shell with a Pi inside and some random USB controller.

I mean, I understand what you're saying, but they're still not the same.

Nintendo, literally, put a Pi inside of a cheap plastic shell. So you're saying that because Nintendo stamped their brand name on a plastic shell, containing an emulator, put 30 roms on it, that it's better than a Pi that can play almost every console and be customized 9 million different ways? Makes perfect sense.

[ShoothimNow]

Because it's official Nintendo hardware, not some crappy printed shell with a Pi inside and some random USB controller.

I mean, I understand what you're saying, but they're still not the same.

Nintendo, literally, put a Pi inside of a cheap plastic shell. So you're saying that because Nintendo stamped their brand name on a plastic shell, containing an emulator, put 30 roms on it, that it's better than a Pi that can play almost every console and be customized 9 million different ways? Makes perfect sense.

uh, read it again buddy

Because it's official Nintendo hardware, not some crappy printed shell with a Pi inside and some random USB controller.

I mean, I understand what you're saying, but they're still not the same.

I too agree with Wiggy, it's not the same.  I like the NES Mini.  Sure... I have a RetroPie... but its not the same.

[Too Beaucoup]

I wasn't talking about a crappy 3D printed NES shell. LOL! I just meant a Pi, in general. There's tons of nice Pi cases that are high quality and look terrific, I wasn't, specifically, talking about a Pi shell that looked like an NES. I guess, if you're buying the Classic and spending $60 bucks because you like the shell. Well, then that's a different story. I guess, if that shell is worth the $60+ dollars to people, more power to you. The actual content you get out of the Classic is certainly not worth $60 bucks, though.

[e_brugal]

I wasn't talking about a crappy 3D printed NES shell. LOL! I just meant a Pi, in general. There's tons of nice Pi cases that are high quality and look terrific, I wasn't, specifically, talking about a Pi shell that looked like an NES. I guess, if you're buying the Classic and spending $60 bucks because you like the shell. Well, then that's a different story. I guess, if that shell is worth the $60+ dollars to people, more power to you. The actual content you get out of the Classic is certainly not worth $60 bucks, though.

You are missing the point. Is an official Nintendo brand device, as a collector is not the same to have a Pi instead of a Nintendo classic. Is like saying  that you prefer to buy a Chinese made repro of Little Samson for $25 instead of the original one for $400. Sure you'll have the game cheaper, you'll play with it, but from a collector view is not the same even if the game play is the the same or even if the cartridge is an exact copy of the original

[Taketheword]

I wasn't talking about a crappy 3D printed NES shell. LOL! I just meant a Pi, in general. There's tons of nice Pi cases that are high quality and look terrific, I wasn't, specifically, talking about a Pi shell that looked like an NES. I guess, if you're buying the Classic and spending $60 bucks because you like the shell. Well, then that's a different story. I guess, if that shell is worth the $60+ dollars to people, more power to you. The actual content you get out of the Classic is certainly not worth $60 bucks, though.

You are missing the point. Is an official Nintendo brand device, as a collector is not the same to have a Pi instead of a Nintendo classic. Is like saying  that you prefer to buy a Chinese made repro of Little Samson for $25 instead of the original one for $400. Sure you'll have the game cheaper, you'll play with it, but from a collector view is not the same even if the game play is the the same or even if the cartridge is an exact copy of the original

This^. Plus the NES Classic's UI is pretty nice.

[palmer6strings]

I'm late to the party, but the Classic NES is actually pretty nice. I'd rather have it than a PI any day anyway. If for some reason I decide to ever get rid of anything, the Classic NES will be much easier to flip that a PI.
I also was much more interested personally in the NES than the Switch. Mainly because the Switch has nothing which interest me AT ALL yet. I've also seen way to many horror vids of problems with the Switch for me to even bother with.
Then it comes down to people that can't handle newer technologies. I'll give an example.
My mom, (who wants a Classic NES but can't really get one right now because of asshole scalpels) can't play newer games because of all the controls and buttons and what not, but she can play most of the simpler Nintendo games just fine.
I guess if anyone has a Classic NES that they would be willing to sell for not much more that retail I'd be willing to buy it from you for her.
$60 really isn't all that much anyway for a console with 30 games stock. I'm sure most of us have spent way more on rather trivial things. Plus I believe Wiggy was pretty close to hitting the nail on the head about what they were making on the systems after all the product, employee, and shipping costs, but if you look at it like they sold 100,000 at $10, they just made a quick $1,000,000 with virtually little work done to supply the system.

[sheep2001]

Yeah, little to supply, but what about design, market, manufacture..........

[Arseen]

You can buy those here from certain major online store... They have plenty of them... price is only 199 Euros + postage...

[wiggy]

Anyone comparing the price of the $60 NES classic to a Pi box and calling the classic a ripoff is seriously not thinking it through.

Nice wired USB controleller - $20
Pi itself - $20-40
Case - $10-20
Power adapter - $10
HDMI cable - $10
SD card - $10

And before anyone argues "I can get an HDMI cable/USB controller/power adapter/etc for $1", consider what Nintendo is offering with their package. They don't make or sell crappy hardware. So if you're gonna properly compare it apples-to-apples, then the quality MUST be considered.

Even applying this formula with crappy parts, you'd still end up around $60 worth of parts, and have a lot of assembly and work to do.

I wasn't talking about a crappy 3D printed NES shell. LOL! I just meant a Pi, in general. There's tons of nice Pi cases that are high quality and look terrific, I wasn't, specifically, talking about a Pi shell that looked like an NES. I guess, if you're buying the Classic and spending $60 bucks because you like the shell. Well, then that's a different story. I guess, if that shell is worth the $60+ dollars to people, more power to you. The actual content you get out of the Classic is certainly not worth $60 bucks, though.

I clearly used that to exemplify what the Nintendo hardware has that a Pi box doesn't.  It doesn't matter what Pi shell you choose, it won't be a Nintendo product.  I've seen plenty of nice laser cut acrylic shells. Want one of those?   

No problem. I can fart that sort of crap out in my sleep.

But it's not Nintendo.