Well that's pretty much bullshit

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TDIRunner:

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--- Quote from: TDIRunner on April 14, 2017, 11:06:49 AM ---One thing to keep in mind is that at $60 MSRP, they really aren't making that much money, regardless of how many they are selling. Their focus really should be on the Switch.

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You can't say that for sure. They may be making $10 per switch and $20 per NES classic. It's all a matter of the cost associated with and quantity distributed for each product.

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You're right I can't say it FOR SURE, but I can say it with 99% certainty that they are making more money on a Switch than they are with a Mini, not counting the endless number of accessories and games that will go with the Switch down the road. while the NES has no additional games and very few accessories.

I'm a firm believer that the ONLY reason the Mini even exists is to make up for the fact that the Switch wasn't ready for Christmas, and the Mini kept everyone thinking about Nintendo through the holidays. Casual gamers and non-gamers all over the country wanted a Mini for the holidays, and now that the Switch is available, their interest in the Mini (which was mostly impulse interest anyway) has switched over (no pun intended) to the Switch. Also, keep in mind that the casual and non-gamers who wanted one, won't be that angry that they couldn't find one. They simply won't care.

The only unhappy customers are the die hard Nintendo gamers, and we are such a small group, it really doesn't matter to Nintendo if we are happy or not.

Hesch:

--- Quote from: TDIRunner ---They simply won't care.

The only unhappy customers are the die hard Nintendo gamers, and we are such a small group, it really doesn't matter to Nintendo if we are happy or not.

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I've never really seen any evidence that Nintendo cares what anyone thinks. Their design decisions always come across as "no, you're wrong, trust us, you'll love this."

They don't release the software OR hardware in the US that fans are begging them for. It's like the non japanese market is an afterthought.

Every device they've released since like the SNES has come with major design flaws and/or Achilles heels. Or just purposefully restricted/limited.

Taketheword:

--- Quote from: Hesch on April 14, 2017, 03:20:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: TDIRunner ---They simply won't care.

The only unhappy customers are the die hard Nintendo gamers, and we are such a small group, it really doesn't matter to Nintendo if we are happy or not.

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I've never really seen any evidence that Nintendo cares what anyone thinks. Their design decisions always come across as "no, you're wrong, trust us, you'll love this."

They don't release the software OR hardware in the US that fans are begging them for. It's like the non japanese market is an afterthought.

Every device they've released since like the SNES has come with major design flaws and/or Achilles heels. Or just purposefully restricted/limited.

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I don't really agree with this. I think sometimes Nintendo does things that they know will upset the consumer because they have to in order to recover. I will admit they seem to take the side of "We'll tell you what to like". As for most of their consoles having a major design flaw (N64 - Analog Stick, NGC - Disc Size, Wii - Outdated hardware), I would venture to say that is because they are always on the cutting edge of innovation. Sony and Microsoft are always on the leading edge of hardware, but Nintendo is always starting trends. But based on what I've seen lately, I would guess that Nintendo has really somewhat recovered from their years of stupidity. I think they may have genuinely underestimated their market for the NES Mini; they likely doubted their market considering the failure that was the Wii U. Nevertheless, in order for the Switch to be a success, they had to transition.

wiggy:

--- Quote from: Hesch on April 14, 2017, 03:20:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: TDIRunner ---They simply won't care.

The only unhappy customers are the die hard Nintendo gamers, and we are such a small group, it really doesn't matter to Nintendo if we are happy or not.

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I've never really seen any evidence that Nintendo cares what anyone thinks. Their design decisions always come across as "no, you're wrong, trust us, you'll love this."

They don't release the software OR hardware in the US that fans are begging them for. It's like the non japanese market is an afterthought.

Every device they've released since like the SNES has come with major design flaws and/or Achilles heels. Or just purposefully restricted/limited.

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Yet they're the only profitable hardware manufacturer. They're not "doing it wrong", which seems to be the common misconception. You/We may not like how they do things, but one thing is clear, they're doing it just right.

Apple is the same way. Jobs made it very clear that he couldn't care less about what the customer thinks was a good idea or not. They aren't the designers and engineers hired to wow people. That (was) apple's job. And when you think about it, that's no different than any other business. You wouldn't listen to someone who came into your workspace with little or no experience in your field and tell you how to do your job, would you?

Hell, people often tell me that I'm "doing it wrong". Yet here I am 4 years later with a business that I started with zero initial financial investment. Can't be doing it all wrong :P

Hesch:
I feel like the only thing they've gotten right is the collector's market. They re-release after re-release the same hardware with a .05% improvement, and people buy the same thing all over again. And I'll admit, I'm guilty of buying into it. And not to mention the different colors and art they do on some hardware. And then there's the amibo's.

A lot of their consoles feel like failed experiments to me, that they then just support until the unit is exhausted. Except for the Wii U, which they couldn't be bothered to support hardly at all.

I do agree that they try to innovate where Sony and Microsoft just try to one up each other. And that deserves recognition. But sometimes they take things too far, and try way too hard to be 'unique' or different.

And don't get me wrong in all of this. I enjoy their games. I'll buy their hardware. I'm just getting tired of their corporate attitude

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