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| monjici:
--- Quote from: TDIRunner on February 02, 2017, 12:41:42 PM ---I'll put it another way. I can think of only two reasons why someone would spend $200 on an NES Mini: * They honestly don't know much about the video game market and they don't realize how easy they will be to get in the near future. This is somewhat understandable considering the number of casual gamers who probably wanted one on an impulse for nostalgic reasons. But these types of impulse buys are usually regretted later, and therefore, not very well thought out. * They MUST HAVE IT NOW, no matter the cost. However, short of a dying child's last wish, I refuse to believe that anyone needed an NES Mini urgently enough to justify that kind of money. --- End quote --- I think we can all agree to that :) Where would you draw the line though... if the retail price is 70$, would paying 100$ to have it right now be justifiable? We can extend that to the Switch coming soon, I'll wait until they bundle it with a game and shed off the price a bit (hopefully). |
| TDIRunner:
--- Quote from: monjici on February 02, 2017, 01:18:41 PM --- Where would you draw the line though... if the retail price is 70$, would paying 100$ to have it right now be justifiable? We can extend that to the Switch coming soon, I'll wait until they bundle it with a game and shed off the price a bit (hopefully). --- End quote --- Good question. As a matter of principle, I refused to pay even 1 cent over retail price for my NES Mini (I already have one if you didn't see my pickup post last week). Before these were even released, I made it clear that I would only buy one if I could get it at retail price without waiting in line or camping out in front of a store. But at what point would I consider another person to be making a stupid purchase? I guess anything over $10 mark up just seems silly to me. Again, this is considering that in this situation, we know that they will be easier to find eventually. |
| Taketheword:
--- Quote from: TDIRunner on February 02, 2017, 02:06:46 PM --- --- Quote from: monjici on February 02, 2017, 01:18:41 PM --- Where would you draw the line though... if the retail price is 70$, would paying 100$ to have it right now be justifiable? We can extend that to the Switch coming soon, I'll wait until they bundle it with a game and shed off the price a bit (hopefully). --- End quote --- Good question. As a matter of principle, I refused to pay even 1 cent over retail price for my NES Mini (I already have one if you didn't see my pickup post last week). Before these were even released, I made it clear that I would only buy one if I could get it at retail price without waiting in line or camping out in front of a store. But at what point would I consider another person to be making a stupid purchase? I guess anything over $10 mark up just seems silly to me. Again, this is considering that in this situation, we know that they will be easier to find eventually. --- End quote --- To elaborate on this point, if we look at this in more economical terms, the point where it becomes a stupid purchase is when the cost of the added markup exceeds the value of acquiring it now/easily. If someone spends an extra $10 on the console to avoid waiting for 2 hours in a line to receive one, it is arguably not a stupid purchase. If someone spends even $20 over retail to avoid spending hours over the next month trying to acquire one for retail, it is arguably not a stupid purchase. Even in these specific situations, although the purchase may be justifiable from a cost perspective, I still believe it is stupid to support scalpers by paying ANY markup. And just to diffuse any arguments of "supply/demand", this is not an argument of the fact that the scalpers are simply utilizing capitalism, nor is it an argument of the demand of the item. This is an argument of the morality of the scalpers, and it is an argument of the impatience of buyers -- which reaches stupidity (not to mention the ignorance that is involved in supporting scalpers). |
| wiggy:
--- Quote from: TDIRunner on February 02, 2017, 11:35:42 AM --- --- Quote from: e_brugal on February 02, 2017, 11:13:30 AM --- --- Quote from: xwaprez on February 02, 2017, 09:02:57 AM ---This is par for the course when it comes to Nintendo, though. I mean, of course "scalpers be scalpin" and all that, but Nintendo always and I mean *always* underestimates demand which leads them to produce small quantities of ___________ item. Anyone that's been collecting amiibo, or tries to get any Special Edition 3DS or games (not an exhaustive list)...knows what I'm talking about. I don't think the people that pay the scalpers on eBay are stupid. If they want something, and they can't walk into a retail store and buy it at retail price, what are they supposed to do? Wait and hope that the scalpers lower the price? They might...they might not. Case in point, the Majora's Mask Limited Edition is still selling comfortably in the $75-$100 range. That was released almost 2 years ago, and I've never once seen it in stock at any retail store here in the Baltimore, MD area (I know because I want it). As much as I hate scalpers, I can't help but feel like Nintendo creates an ecosystem for them to thrive and after all this time it almost seems like they do it on purpose. --- End quote --- That's different, that's an item that is no longer for sale in stores, an item that you know won't be for sale in stores. You have to pay the price. But when you know there would be another production and you buy at a higher price, sorry but that isn't a smart move (stupid). --- End quote --- I haven't checked as of this morning, but I know that yesterday, Gamestop still had pre-orders available for the new pro controller for the Switch for $80 (or whatever Nintendo is charging). Yet, you could still find sold listings on eBay on the same day for well over $100. That's the type of purchase that I would label as stupid. --- End quote --- But they keep selling out in minutes. It's not like they go up and stay there. Hell, I'm still trying to hunt one down for launch day so I can make display stands for them. |
| TDIRunner:
--- Quote from: wiggy on February 02, 2017, 03:57:18 PM --- But they keep selling out in minutes. It's not like they go up and stay there. Hell, I'm still trying to hunt one down for launch day so I can make display stands for them. --- End quote --- I'm just going by what I heard. I never actually looked yesterday, so I could be wrong, but it was my understanding that they were up for quite a while on GS website yesterday. Best of luck in getting one. I don't plan to get a Switch right away, but whenever I eventually get one, I definitely want a Pro controller to go with it. |
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