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TDIRunner:


--- Quote from: e_brugal on February 02, 2017, 11:13:30 AM ---
--- Quote from: xwaprez on February 02, 2017, 09:02:57 AM ---This is par for the course when it comes to Nintendo, though. I mean, of course "scalpers be scalpin" and all that, but Nintendo always and I mean *always* underestimates demand which leads them to produce small quantities of ___________ item.

Anyone that's been collecting amiibo, or tries to get any Special Edition 3DS or games (not an exhaustive list)...knows what I'm talking about.

I don't think the people that pay the scalpers on eBay are stupid. If they want something, and they can't walk into a retail store and buy it at retail price, what are they supposed to do? Wait and hope that the scalpers lower the price? They might...they might not. Case in point, the Majora's Mask Limited Edition is still selling comfortably in the $75-$100 range. That was released almost 2 years ago, and I've never once seen it in stock at any retail store here in the Baltimore, MD area (I know because I want it).

As much as I hate scalpers, I can't help but feel like Nintendo creates an ecosystem for them to thrive and after all this time it almost seems like they do it on purpose.

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That's different, that's an item that is no longer for sale in stores, an item that you know won't be for sale in stores. You have to pay the price. But when you know there would be another production and you buy at a higher price, sorry but that isn't a smart move (stupid).

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I haven't checked as of this morning, but I know that yesterday, Gamestop still had pre-orders available for the new pro controller for the Switch for $80 (or whatever Nintendo is charging).  Yet, you could still find sold listings on eBay on the same day for well over $100.  That's the type of purchase that I would label as stupid.

Taketheword:


--- Quote from: e_brugal on February 02, 2017, 11:05:12 AM ---
--- Quote from: TDIRunner on February 02, 2017, 09:18:16 AM ---
--- Quote ---I don't think the people that pay the scalpers on eBay are stupid. If they want something, and they can't walk into a retail store and buy it at retail price, what are they supposed to do?
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I disagree.  They are stupid.  These are not necessities.  No one has to own video games.  

People can spend their money however this wish.  If they have more money than brains, then by all means pay the scalpers whatever they want, but I will still look at it as a stupid purchase.  If a millionaire spent $200 on an NES Mini, I would still refer to that as a stupid purchase.  No offense to anyone here who may have done that, but that's just how I look at the situation.



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Agree with you on this

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I agree also.

monjici:


--- Quote from: Taketheword on February 02, 2017, 11:52:20 AM ---
--- Quote from: e_brugal on February 02, 2017, 11:05:12 AM ---
--- Quote from: TDIRunner on February 02, 2017, 09:18:16 AM ---
--- Quote ---I don't think the people that pay the scalpers on eBay are stupid. If they want something, and they can't walk into a retail store and buy it at retail price, what are they supposed to do?
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I disagree.  They are stupid.  These are not necessities.  No one has to own video games.  

People can spend their money however this wish.  If they have more money than brains, then by all means pay the scalpers whatever they want, but I will still look at it as a stupid purchase.  If a millionaire spent $200 on an NES Mini, I would still refer to that as a stupid purchase.  No offense to anyone here who may have done that, but that's just how I look at the situation.



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Agree with you on this

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I agree also.

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I don't agree ;)

The basic of economy is offer and demand. If the offer is low and demand is high, then price is high. It doesn't make people stupid, just unlucky in this case.
Extend that to any other type of purchase, food, cars, etc. Aspargus cost 8$ a small pack currently, I'm not stupid if I buy them, it just ends up that I like them enough to pay that price. I could just wait until summer for the offer to be higher, thus reduced price.

If we start calling out people stupid because they buy stuff they pay too much for them, then we are all stupid because we by old cart whose ROMs are free on the net.
This excludes TDIRunner, he's running all on everdrives ;)

TDIRunner:


--- Quote from: monjici on February 02, 2017, 12:09:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: Taketheword on February 02, 2017, 11:52:20 AM ---
--- Quote from: e_brugal on February 02, 2017, 11:05:12 AM ---
--- Quote from: TDIRunner on February 02, 2017, 09:18:16 AM ---
--- Quote ---I don't think the people that pay the scalpers on eBay are stupid. If they want something, and they can't walk into a retail store and buy it at retail price, what are they supposed to do?
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I disagree.  They are stupid.  These are not necessities.  No one has to own video games.  

People can spend their money however this wish.  If they have more money than brains, then by all means pay the scalpers whatever they want, but I will still look at it as a stupid purchase.  If a millionaire spent $200 on an NES Mini, I would still refer to that as a stupid purchase.  No offense to anyone here who may have done that, but that's just how I look at the situation.



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Agree with you on this

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I agree also.

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I don't agree ;)

The basic of economy is offer and demand. If the offer is low and demand is high, then price is high. It doesn't make people stupid, just unlucky in this case.
Extend that to any other type of purchase, food, cars, etc. Aspargus cost 8$ a small pack currently, I'm not stupid if I buy them, it just ends up that I like them enough to pay that price. I could just wait until summer for the offer to be higher, thus reduced price.

If we start calling out people stupid because they buy stuff they pay too much for them, then we are all stupid because we by old cart whose ROMs are free on the net.
This excludes TDIRunner, he's running all on everdrives ;)

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You are talking about something completely different.  We are talking about things that are expensive NOW, but we know with 100% 99.99% certainty that they will be cheaper in the near future.  If you spent $8 on asparagus today KNOWING that it would be $0.10 tomorrow, I would call that stupid.  If someone decides to pay $50 for a copy of Contra (or insert whatever the current going rate is), I personally wouldn't say that's stupid because there is nothing that should lead any of us to believe that game will be cheaper any time soon.  If anything, we have good reason to believe that price might climb more within the next few years.  I personally wouldn't spend that much money on it because it's not worth that much to me, but I could at least understand why someone would.  

TDIRunner:

I'll put it another way.

I can think of only two reasons why someone would spend $200 on an NES Mini:

* They honestly don't know much about the video game market and they don't realize how easy they will be to get in the near future.  This is somewhat understandable considering the number of casual gamers who probably wanted one on an impulse for nostalgic reasons.  But these types of impulse buys are usually regretted later, and therefore, not very well thought out.
* They MUST HAVE IT NOW, no matter the cost.  However, short of a dying child's last wish, I refuse to believe that anyone needed an NES Mini urgently enough to justify that kind of money.




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