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| Taketheword:
EDIT: The discussion here resulted in this thread: http://www.thecoverproject.net/forums/index.php?topic=21556.0. I am just going to throw out a wild idea. Has anyone ever considered attempting to create a full console library of reconstructed boxes? For example, if someone made reconstructed boxes for the entire N64 library, all future N64 covers could be based off of the "digital boxes". It would no longer be necessary to scan/acquire scans every time someone wants to create a cover. This is of course an ambitious idea, but imagine if everyone had access to a complete set of boxes for a console. From there, they could print a new box, modify it to be a custom box, trim the box to instantly have a retail cover, or trim the box and modify it to create a custom cover. Long term (I am talking about the next 10 years), could this be a way of fully (digitally) preserving the retail boxes? And could it also avoid the "reinvention of the wheel" (the correction of scans) every time someone wants to create a new cover? If anyone is genuinely interested in pursuing this long term, I would gladly help. |
| CZroe:
--- Quote from: Taketheword on October 30, 2016, 03:00:59 PM ---I am just going to throw out a wild idea. Has anyone ever considered attempting to create a full console library of reconstructed boxes? For example, if someone made reconstructed boxes for the entire N64 library, all future N64 covers could be based off of the "digital boxes". It would no longer be necessary to scan/acquire scans every time someone wants to create a cover. This is of course an ambitious idea, but imagine if everyone had access to a complete set of boxes for a console. From there, they could print a new box, modify it to be a custom box, trim the box to instantly have a retail cover, or trim the box and modify it to create a custom cover. Long term (I am talking about the next 10 years), could this be a way of fully (digitally) preserving the retail boxes? And could it also avoid the "reinvention of the wheel" (the correction of scans) every time someone wants to create a new cover? If anyone is genuinely interested in pursuing this long term, I would gladly help. --- End quote --- It sounds like you're talking about something similar to Nintandbox. The problem with that is it would make it way too easy for counterfeiters to ride off the work and pass the boxes off as legitimate. Luckily, Nintandbox doesn't have many US retail boxes and they do change the UPC. It's pretty simple to throw a raw scan into a template anyway. No one would confuse a UGC, BitBox, or CGC for an original box, so we don't really have that issue here. I think most people want to see significant differences for boxes to be on board with the idea. Also, many of the N64 covers on this site have stickers and such scanned and printed on them (see NBA Hang Time for example), so I assume that a good raw box scan isn't available publicly. I am considering starting something like this with a different kind of organization. My boxes would be immediately distinguishable from the real thing while also having the original art (picture of a box on a box). |
| PX0:
--- Quote from: CZroe on October 30, 2016, 04:48:47 PM ---The problem with that is it would make it way too easy for counterfeiters to ride off the work and pass the boxes off as legitimate. [...] No one would confuse a UGC, BitBox, or CGC for an original box, so we don't really have that issue here. I think most people want to see significant differences for boxes to be on board with the idea. I am considering starting something like this with a different kind of organization. My boxes would be immediately distinguishable from the real thing while also having the original art (picture of a box on a box). --- End quote --- I am not sure that this is the reason. :( CGC for example does (illegaly) sell covers from TheCoverProject. And yet they do get massive support from this community. With a whole subsection in the forums and a big feature on the frontpage. (The NES covers made by shenske are specifically made to fit CGC's NES cases. And CGC does sell these covers.) NintAndBox does mark each of their boxscans with their logo, also. |
| Taketheword:
--- Quote from: CZroe on October 30, 2016, 04:48:47 PM --- --- Quote from: Taketheword on October 30, 2016, 03:00:59 PM ---I am just going to throw out a wild idea. Has anyone ever considered attempting to create a full console library of reconstructed boxes? For example, if someone made reconstructed boxes for the entire N64 library, all future N64 covers could be based off of the "digital boxes". It would no longer be necessary to scan/acquire scans every time someone wants to create a cover. This is of course an ambitious idea, but imagine if everyone had access to a complete set of boxes for a console. From there, they could print a new box, modify it to be a custom box, trim the box to instantly have a retail cover, or trim the box and modify it to create a custom cover. Long term (I am talking about the next 10 years), could this be a way of fully (digitally) preserving the retail boxes? And could it also avoid the "reinvention of the wheel" (the correction of scans) every time someone wants to create a new cover? If anyone is genuinely interested in pursuing this long term, I would gladly help. --- End quote --- It sounds like you're talking about something similar to Nintandbox. The problem with that is it would make it way too easy for counterfeiters to ride off the work and pass the boxes off as legitimate. Luckily, Nintandbox doesn't have many US retail boxes and they do change the UPC. It's pretty simple to throw a raw scan into a template anyway. No one would confuse a UGC, BitBox, or CGC for an original box, so we don't really have that issue here. I think most people want to see significant differences for boxes to be on board with the idea. Also, many of the N64 covers on this site have stickers and such scanned and printed on them (see NBA Hang Time for example), so I assume that a good raw box scan isn't available publicly. I am considering starting something like this with a different kind of organization. My boxes would be immediately distinguishable from the real thing while also having the original art (picture of a box on a box). --- End quote --- Interesting point. It is a legitimate concern. --- Quote from: PX0 on October 30, 2016, 05:08:54 PM --- --- Quote from: CZroe on October 30, 2016, 04:48:47 PM ---The problem with that is it would make it way too easy for counterfeiters to ride off the work and pass the boxes off as legitimate. [...] No one would confuse a UGC, BitBox, or CGC for an original box, so we don't really have that issue here. I think most people want to see significant differences for boxes to be on board with the idea. I am considering starting something like this with a different kind of organization. My boxes would be immediately distinguishable from the real thing while also having the original art (picture of a box on a box). --- End quote --- I am not sure that this is the reason. :( CGC for example does (illegaly) sell covers from TheCoverProject. And yet they do get massive support from this community. With a whole subsection in the forums and a big feature on the frontpage. (The NES covers made by shenske are specifically made to fit CGC's NES cases. And CGC does sell these covers.) NintAndBox does mark each of their boxscans with their logo, also. --- End quote --- Technically CGC is not illegally selling the covers as they are not copyright protected. If anything, CGC is fudging the law by selling prints which contain Trademarked/Registered logos, brands, slogans, etc. The same argument could be used to argue that the majority of the covers on TCP are illegal as Snowcone mentioned: --- Quote ---3. Aspiring people see the high quality work that the members of TCP have produced and are going to try and make a quick buck off it. This sucks, but since we don't in fact own the artwork there is nothing we can do about it. Would it be awesome to get credit for the work? Absolutely. I support your right as a contributor to request a link back to the site to help support things. What I don't support are threats of legal action. Let's be real here folks. A savvy lawyer could probably argue that what we do is illegal despite the fact that we aren't out to make a profit. --- End quote --- |
| ShoothimNow:
--- Quote from: Taketheword on October 30, 2016, 03:00:59 PM ---This is of course an ambitious idea, but imagine if everyone had access to a complete set of boxes for a console. From there, they could print a new box, modify it to be a custom box, trim the box to instantly have a retail cover, or trim the box and modify it to create a custom cover. --- End quote --- *looks at front page regarding NES covers |
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