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July 31, 2016, 06:34:42 PM
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FritzWhite

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There's been a lot of stuff going on in Europe recently with Brexit and the terrorist attacks. Putin spoke to the press in June and said some things that were disconcerting about potential war:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09GBjzxYymQ

My question to all of you is, what's it like living in your country right now? Do you feel as safe now as you did a few years ago? What are your concerns for the future? How do you feel about refugees, or immigrants in your country? Have you had good experiences with them?

This isn't meant to start any arguments or incite hostility. I'm genuinely curious about all of your thoughts on current events of the world. I don't live in Europe so I don't know what it's like to be there. I live in Southern California. I've met a small handful of muslims that were polite to me, but the vast majority won't say anything back if I say hello to them and I get a strong feeling that they don't like me. That's my personal experience.

July 31, 2016, 07:46:46 PM
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Living next to Russia, about 70km to nearest border crossing, 2 others withing 100km.

Ï live in (I think) all white small town.
Not that we are racist (some are bit disliking of foreigners, but even they just seem grumble quietly brhing everyone's backs or in their groups drunk in the bars), but non just have just moved to this distant quiet area of 3700 or so people.

Few years back for many years Russians really affected the bigger city next to us.
Every day bus loads (over hundred) of Turist from Russia came here to shop for food and stuff, and many more came with their own cars.
You could not walk around the city without hearing constant russian.
In the beginning they were rude and cut in shopping lines, one very annoying tactic they had was that one was waiting in line and then when his/her turn came dozen or so persons with shopping carts rushed in and cut in line.
That did not last long as customers (and many cashiers as well) literally told them fuck off and get to back of the line.
Word got around and the turists started acting well, and all was fine.
Shops also opened so called tax free cashiers where those turists got their tax refund stuff sorted fast by experienced cashiers.
This also freed the normal cashiers who didn't do the tax free stuff for local people.
Both were happy as lines were kept short as enough cashiers were available.

They also bought houses at large volumes at great prices (up to maybe 50% more that locals would have paid).
Before you say, no sellers did not extort them.
Wealthy Russians just came and handed over the money asked without bargaining as much as locals did.
This happened around country.

Also many high end shops and shopping malls were build with the Russian turist in mind.

Then Russian currency tanked and turists left, many selling their houses at low prices.
Now I think I can see maybe bus or two per week, and nearly no russian is heard, shopping malls are empty.

As for security... Russia will not attack us as it's way cheaper and easier to buy the land piece by piece.
It still directly or indirectly owns many buildings bought around militarily important places... ;)
Russia also started radio station sending great music... and news with heavily Russian point of view, and has licence for opening 3 more.
None of them can be heard here surprisingly.

As for ISIS or other terrorist groups.
Hopefully and probably not gonna attack as this area is too thinly spread to cause really any major damage or injuries.
I believe the density is about 1 person per square kilometer, with no major places to group up, except maybe school or church.

So all in all:
All is quiet and peaceful with economy decent.
And tanking Brittish Pound makes ebay shopping more and more actracting.

July 31, 2016, 08:03:43 PM
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We have a large difference in population per square kilometer. Orange County had 2,360 people per square kilometer in 2010, and the number has grown. I'm concerned that we'd be a pretty ripe target for a terrorist attack. Disneyland is here and has been mentioned as a potential target. There's a military base 50 miles away and there was a nuclear power plant only 30 miles away but they shut it down a couple years ago.

Our demographic:

The 2010 United States Census reported that Orange County had a population of 3,010,232. The racial makeup of Orange County was 1,830,758 (60.8%) White (44.0% non-Hispanic white), 50,744 (1.7%) African American, 18,132 (0.6%) Native American, 537,804 (17.9%) Asian, 9,354 (0.3%) Pacific Islander, 435,641 (14.5%) from other races, and 127,799 (4.2%) from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 1,012,973 persons (33.7%).[32]

The Hispanic and Latino population is predominantly of Mexican origin; this group accounts for 28.5% of the county's population, followed by Salvadorans (0.8%), Guatemalans (0.5%), Puerto Ricans (0.4%), Cubans (0.3%), Colombians (0.3%), and Peruvians (0.3%).[33] Santa Ana with its population reportedly 75 percent Hispanic/Latino, is among the most Hispanic/Latino percentage cities in both California and the U.S., esp. of Mexican-American descent.[34] See also Logan Park (Santa Ana), the city's largest and oldest barrio.

Among the Asian population, 6.1% are Vietnamese, followed by Koreans (2.9%), Chinese (2.7%), Filipinos (2.4%), Indians (1.4%), Japanese (1.1%), Cambodians (0.2%) Pakistanis (0.2%), Thais (0.1%), Indonesians (0.1%), and Laotians (0.1%).[33] According to KPCC in 2014, Orange County has the largest proportion of Asian Americans in Southern California, where one in five residents are Asian American.[35] There is also a significant Muslim population in the county.[36]
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August 01, 2016, 12:26:08 AM
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Checked my facts and it's atually only less than 3100 people and density is 14/km2

August 01, 2016, 02:36:59 AM
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As a British guy living in rural France, I feel extremely safe.  

I grew up in London, during the time the IRA was active. While I was a student, I worked for a while in a large department store in central London.  We had to check the department every day for bombs.  Not just a quick check - a thorough check.  That was probably 150 members of sales staff, searching the shop floors, toilets, restaurants for bombs, while the general public were completely unaware, and carried on shopping - this was going on in every large retail outlet at the time.  I would say 50% of journeys on the tube resulted in delays because 'suspect packages' were found. And maybe 2 in 10 involved an evacuation.  This was a way of life growing up.  It was an annoyance, but it didn't stop me living.  And the threat was real.

Now this isn't to say the ISIS threat isn't real, however I don't believe the threat level is raised as high as it was back in the 80's/90's.  The media is sensationalising it - and making people worried about Muslims.  This worry has turned into racist and xenophobic behaviour since Brexit - and I can honestly say for the 1st time in my life I'm actually ashamed to be British.  The global Muslim population is around 22% - 1.5 billion people - if every Muslim was a threat, we'd all be screwed.  The media, especially awful papers like the sun, don't like to tell the facts though, it's not sensational enough.

As for the Brexit.....ugggghhh......so, over 50 percent of the British population were able to have the wool pulled over their eyes.  A campaign based on blatant lies, and unworkable promises.  A TV campaign that was down right racist.  It's promises of controlling Imigration, and taking Britain back.  Back to what? Back to the good old days when we mined coal, built ships, rich in farming, were a leader in steel........I'm afraid you might need to wipe out China before you can compete.  Britain sold off their industry - because someone else was prepared to do it cheaper.  Simple economics.  Unfortunately there is an underclass who have been brainwashed into thinking it's all the fault of foreigners coming over and taking their jobs.  And claiming benefits. And getting council houses.  None of which is true.  I am disgusted about the Brexit result, and as one of the roughly 1 million Brits living in Europe, it creates a bit of uncertainty about our rights in the future.  I'll be getting my Irish passport to retain my status as an EU citizen.

As for migration - I don't see a lot of it down here (and I'm basically a migrant myself).  I know it is a problem for some areas because of sheer numbers.  I believe there should be more done to ascertain who the real refugees are.  People fleeing war and terror should be given all the help they need.  Who knows when we might need that help ourselves one day.  For some reason economic migration has spiked at the same time, I do believe that a firmer stance needs to be taken on economic migrants while we help those who really need it.

Migration has always been a thing - I loved living in a multicultural London.  My parents were Irish living in London.  I'm English/Irish living in France.  People have always moved about. It's what makes the world a diverse wonderful place to live.  However - if I move to a country I abide by their rules, I accept their traditions, and I try to be part of the community.  It would be nice if everyone did the same.  A minority don't.  And that goes as far as the Brits living in France too - I have met English people who have been here 15 years, and don't speak any French.  Disgusting.

So in essence how do I feel about the world we live in?  It's a bit of a mess really.  My biggest concern is probably what's going on in the US.  Trump as a world leader?  The whole world should be scared of that one.

August 01, 2016, 04:04:04 AM
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Wow, that entire situation in Britain sounds terrible, I'm so glad nothing like that could ever happen in the US . . . . heeh . . . . . heeehh . . . . . . heeeeuuuugggghhh . . . ..

I live fairly close to NYC, so I'm withing a reasonable distance from a big target, but CT is not much of one itself.


I guess overall, looking at all history, the world is in a good place. The world as a whole is always improving.

The death of George Martin (The Beatles Producer), who was born in 1926 and passed in 2016 realy made me realize how far we have come in the span of a life time. There are still many people alive today who were alive when the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed, outlawing discrimination for most groups (Still waiting on that gay one for 1/2 the country), each generation seems to be overall

I personally love living in a very diverse town, the best way to kill racism/sexism/xenophobia/Homophobia/ect is to know the other. People fear the unknown and what they don't understand.

Kinda rambly, but I need to sleep and I'm spending to much time editing.

August 01, 2016, 07:46:10 AM
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As a white guy living in England, I feel pretty safe.

I think if you live far enough away from any major cities you should feel pretty safe, right? I do.
The only thing I'm really worried about is being robbed, but in the 38 years I've been alive I've never been approached or threatened, ever.

since the time of the Vikings we've always been a cultural melting pot, this is a good thing.