S-Video to Component?

[larryinc64]

I'm toying around with reworking my Game Consle set up and was looking to what the best video outputs can be, at the cheepest price.

My TV only has Composite+Component (Shared in the same port), and HDMI

I know S-Video is better than Composite and works on most Nintendo systems, but is there any way to convert that signal to Component (or even HDMI)?

Was looking to get better picture out of my SNES, N64 and Gamecube (Maybe the SEGA systems)

IS it in the relm of posibilities to get a cable like THIS and convert the signal, or is a signal converter needed?


To think I almost got a cheep Component Gamecube cable from GameStop, but the cable was torn and they through it away before contacting me (It was probably repairable)  

[ShoothimNow]

how dare you hijack! =P

http://www.thecoverproject.net/forums/index.php?topic=20825.msg190174;topicseen#new

[Arseen]

RGB to HDMI seems the best you can get.

But cheap it ain't if you get quality equipment.

[wiggy]

What Arseen said.

That adapter is worthless.

All the info you'll need and then some can be found here:

www.retrorgb.com

[zakurowrath]

I'm toying around with reworking my Game Consle set up and was looking to what the best video outputs can be, at the cheepest price.

My TV only has Composite+Component (Shared in the same port), and HDMI

I know S-Video is better than Composite and works on most Nintendo systems, but is there any way to convert that signal to Component (or even HDMI)?

Was looking to get better picture out of my SNES, N64 and Gamecube (Maybe the SEGA systems)

IS it in the relm of posibilities to get a cable like THIS and convert the signal, or is a signal converter needed?

To think I almost got a cheep Component Gamecube cable from GameStop, but the cable was torn and they through it away before contacting me (It was probably repairable)  

That cable won't work at all, S-Video is Chroma and Luma (Y/C), where component is Luma and difference between red and difference between blue (YPbPr). You would need a physical box (Y/C to YPbPr) convertor with a chipset inside to convert the video signal, however it wouldn't result in component quality results since it's only S-Video. ShoothimNow started a great thread on the subject and I linked everyone to My Life In Gaming on YouTube. They not only break down each systems video output potential but explain the difference in video signals and what you would need for your setup. https://www.youtube.com/user/mylifeingaming

[larryinc64]

My tv has no S-Video input (Nether does my Capture Card) so I need to convert it to Component.

[ShoothimNow]

My tv has no S-Video input (Nether does my Capture Card) so I need to convert it to Component.

Same, which is why I was looking into SCART.  the Framemeister is out of my price budget at the time being, and RGB modding isnt a solid solution for me as I suck at soldering.  Just tell us what to buy and we will buy them 

[larryinc64]

Same. Just N64 and NGC don't support SCART

[zakurowrath]

My tv has no S-Video input (Nether does my Capture Card) so I need to convert it to Component.

Well you have a few options.

There's the S-Video to Composite route which, video quality wise is slightly better than regular composite video but in the end it still smeary muddy mess.

You could go the S-Video to HDMI route, that's going to be the second cheapest but that takes up an HDMI port which if you only have one could pose a problem. Most TV's have at least 2 or more but I've seen a few with just one.

There is the RGB to Component route as well, but then you start getting into cost of RGB cables, plus the $50.00 RGB to YUV box, and it's good to have a SCART switch since the CSY-2100 doesn't have audio output without modification.

The only Y/C to Component video boxes I found were professional grade, I'm sure China makes a cheaper one but from what I seen it costs around $150.00-$250.00 to convert S-Video to Component video.

Same. Just N64 and NGC don't support SCART

PAL Gamecubes support SCART RGB, however most if not all PAL games run at 50hz and a special PAL 60hz mode if supported. But it's only 480i RGB not 480p without homebrew software.

If you want 480p out of a Gamecube you could buy the expensive component cables right now, or wait till Bad Ass Consoles releases his GCVideo upgrade mod which will remove the digital port and allow you to use easily found Wii Component Video cables, or the HDMI upgrade which allows both digital audio and video over HDMI. Will it cost money, yes, will it be cheaper than Gamecube component cables, most definitely, it's all about what you want to spend. 

And N64 supports SCART with an RGB modification. 

[wiggy]

Same. Just N64 and NGC don't support SCART

HDMI mod the N64, play GCN on BC compatible Wii via component.  Problem solved.

[larryinc64]

You could go the S-Video to HDMI route, that's going to be the second cheapest but that takes up an HDMI port which if you only have one could pose a problem. Most TV's have at least 2 or more but I've seen a few with just one.

I was thinking this route.

I need to get a HDMI splitter anyway (Have 3 systems that output it and 2 ports), I also need to get my PS3 and PS4 a HTCP stripper for my capture card, and ether a signal splitter, or maybe use a HDMI splitter backwards to have one that goes to the TV and one to go to the capture card, as the Elgato pass through only works when the card is plugged in and the software is running.

I just need to find one that does not introduce lag so it is a problem.

Same. Just N64 and NGC don't support SCART

HDMI mod the N64, play GCN on BC compatible Wii via component.  Problem solved.

HDMI mods are expensive (I no longer work retail, $70+ or whatever is a lot for me for 1 system) And I currently use my Wii as a NGC, but lack of Game Boy Player support, and me just wanting to use the NCG. Plus I have other S-Video systems.

[Nacho3]

I have one of these and it works ok. http://www.ebay.com/itm/HDMI-To-3RCA-AV-CVBS-Composite-S-Video-R-L-Audio-Video-Converter-Adapter-1080P-/311598220765?hash=item488cb385dd:g:ORkAAOSwYmZXGulH
I still prefer to play on my old CRT with S-video but when I want to play an older system in the living room this helps it not look like ass.

[zakurowrath]

I have one of these and it works ok. http://www.ebay.com/itm/HDMI-To-3RCA-AV-CVBS-Composite-S-Video-R-L-Audio-Video-Converter-Adapter-1080P-/311598220765?hash=item488cb385dd:g:ORkAAOSwYmZXGulH
I still prefer to play on my old CRT with S-video but when I want to play an older system in the living room this helps it not look like ass.

I believe a friend of mine has one of those and she seems to like it. She says there's no lag but she could have gotten used to it since she's played mostly on LCD's her whole life.

I was thinking this route.

I need to get a HDMI splitter anyway (Have 3 systems that output it and 2 ports), I also need to get my PS3 and PS4 a HTCP stripper for my capture card, and ether a signal splitter, or maybe use a HDMI splitter backwards to have one that goes to the TV and one to go to the capture card, as the Elgato pass through only works when the card is plugged in and the software is running.

I just need to find one that does not introduce lag so it is a problem.

HDMI mods are expensive (I no longer work retail, $70+ or whatever is a lot for me for 1 system) And I currently use my Wii as a NGC, but lack of Game Boy Player support, and me just wanting to use the NCG. Plus I have other S-Video systems.

Since it's analogue to digital lag will be introduced no matter what. Even the Framemeister I believe introduces 1-2 frames of lag, and then the TV itself will introduce it's own lag depending on how it processes the HDMI signal. Check into your TV's menus and see if you can find a "Game" mode, usually a mode like that takes processing and other things the TV does to the signal out so it saves a few frames of lag.

The HDMI mods for the NES, N64 and Gamecube while expensive have virtually no lag because they're digital all the way through so maybe a frame or two depending on what processing mode your in and what your TV is processing. In fact I believe a few Super Smash Brothers tournaments want to test the UltraHDMI for the N64 and see if it could be used, most are going to stay with CRT most likely thou.

As someone who works in retail as well, I completely understand where you're coming from, the mods are a luxury  

[wiggy]

You could go the S-Video to HDMI route, that's going to be the second cheapest but that takes up an HDMI port which if you only have one could pose a problem. Most TV's have at least 2 or more but I've seen a few with just one.

I was thinking this route.

I need to get a HDMI splitter anyway (Have 3 systems that output it and 2 ports), I also need to get my PS3 and PS4 a HTCP stripper for my capture card, and ether a signal splitter, or maybe use a HDMI splitter backwards to have one that goes to the TV and one to go to the capture card, as the Elgato pass through only works when the card is plugged in and the software is running.

I just need to find one that does not introduce lag so it is a problem.

Same. Just N64 and NGC don't support SCART

HDMI mod the N64, play GCN on BC compatible Wii via component.  Problem solved.

HDMI mods are expensive (I no longer work retail, $70+ or whatever is a lot for me for 1 system) And I currently use my Wii as a NGC, but lack of Game Boy Player support, and me just wanting to use the NCG. Plus I have other S-Video systems.

But you said that you don't have S-vid hookups. 

It's gonna be expensive no matter how you attack it. You're not going to achieve a high quality image with cheap Y-cables and such.  You've just got to decide how valuable it is to have these consoles properly connected. If it's really important, then just save them pennies. If not, composite and move on...

[ShoothimNow]

You've just got to decide how valuable it is to have these consoles properly connected. If it's really important, then just save them pennies. If not, composite and move on...

But... but... but