Well what do you guys think

[PinBiohazard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhQeuT0cTGM

Well what do you guys think? I think this is good

[palmer6strings]

I would like to give my opinion, but I couldn't stand listening to his blabber long enough to figure out what was going on...

I don't know what it is about Pat but he and his friend kinda get on my nerves.

[wiggy]

Can't say it surprises me all that much.  That said, I can't watch pat videos.  That dude on the left just makes me want to punch him every time. 

[PinBiohazard]

A synopsis of it is "A shipping box of 6 very rare, brand new Stadium Events NES games has been confirmed to exist in a game collection. The guy who owns the box was tired of people cornering the market and raising prices to ridiculous prices, Games should not be a Investment rather something you enjoy to collect, so anyway this guy was threatened by the guy who was forcing the game prices going up and said to him basically if you put those on the market I will ruin you, so he made a post on the NintendoAge forums to prove that he legit had a shipping box of Stadium Events, People vouched for him because the guy with the box is a respected collector who collects shipping boxes of games and is what they call the Gen 1 Collector (early 90's) so he would of probably of got them when a store was getting rid of old stock, he also has sealed shipping boxes of other rare titles but he collects for fun rather then to show off, thats why he hasnt shown them off before"

[palmer6strings]

Ok so express my feelings about that, the dude that owns them can do whatever he wants with them, but it kind of sounds stupid to state that there shouldn't be a value placed on items to collect. Otherwise what's the point of collecting something?
If he wants to sell them for $50 a pop that's on him, but I'll tell you right now that if collecting games shouldn't hold value, most of us wouldn't collect them. I collect because I enjoy  playing the games I do collect AND because they have a value on them. I wouldn't collect them if they didn't have a value.

Then the other guy that says he would ruin the collector if he ever put them in the market is a moronic ass hat. Simple as that. If he put his case on the market, the price would NOT substantially decrease. People would still want them for collectible "value" o them.

Example: Corvettes are worth more than thier weight in produced iron. But there aren't as many out there as people like to think there are. To every parking lot that has a Vette in it, there is prolly 10-20 Chevy Impalas there. So rarity adds value. Well around 10 years ago or so, there was a warehouse with around 100 Vettes in it. Did that bring down the price value of the Vette? Absolutely not.

For anyone to threaten someone else over anything than trying to protect someone's well being is just a pussy.

I personally have been collecting games since I was around 5 years old, more specifically, since 1991. Back then it was hard to do that because I was so young. But all the new games I got I always kept the box, even when I found used games with the box I kept those too, just because I felt they had a value. So luckily I was a smart early 90's collector.

Sadly, when I was getting a divorce, I think she threw away about 1/3 of my boxes because I lost about 1/4 of my NES boxes, just a couple SNES boxes, and all of my Gameboy and Game Gear boxes...

[PinBiohazard]

Ok so express my feelings about that, the dude that owns them can do whatever he wants with them, but it kind of sounds stupid to state that there shouldn't be a value placed on items to collect. Otherwise what's the point of collecting something?
If he wants to sell them for $50 a pop that's on him, but I'll tell you right now that if collecting games shouldn't hold value, most of us wouldn't collect them. I collect because I enjoy  playing the games I do collect AND because they have a value on them. I wouldn't collect them if they didn't have a value.

Then the other guy that says he would ruin the collector if he ever put them in the market is a moronic ass hat. Simple as that. If he put his case on the market, the price would NOT substantially decrease. People would still want them for collectible "value" o them.

Example: Corvettes are worth more than thier weight in produced iron. But there aren't as many out there as people like to think there are. To every parking lot that has a Vette in it, there is prolly 10-20 Chevy Impalas there. So rarity adds value. Well around 10 years ago or so, there was a warehouse with around 100 Vettes in it. Did that bring down the price value of the Vette? Absolutely not.

For anyone to threaten someone else over anything than trying to protect someone's well being is just a pussy.

I personally have been collecting games since I was around 5 years old, more specifically, since 1991. Back then it was hard to do that because I was so young. But all the new games I got I always kept the box, even when I found used games with the box I kept those too, just because I felt they had a value. So luckily I was a smart early 90's collector.

Sadly, when I was getting a divorce, I think she threw away about 1/3 of my boxes because I lost about 1/4 of my NES boxes, just a couple SNES boxes, and all of my Gameboy and Game Gear boxes...

The Question is would you rather bay $10,000 for a Sealed Stadium Events or $2000

[palmer6strings]

Honestly, Neither. I only really collect games I like and want to play. The ONLY reason I buy expensive collectible games that I'm not into is because I find them on the extreme cheap.

Example: Cool Ball is worth $80-90 last I checked. I got it and a pink GBA SP for $1. Would I have bought it for even $30 by itself? No. The game kinda sucks lol

Just as an FYI, I'm not trying to be rude about the opinion, I'm just stern with my opinion. Hell, I can do quite a bit of cool shit with $2k other than buying a game I don't want.

 

Edit: Well, I just checked the price for Cool Ball, The price has dropped to around $40 cart only, but I still wouldn't buy it for that much.

[wiggy]

I don't collect because of the value. Not at all.

Some things I collect because I genuinely want to play them (some day), while other items are just interesting to me for one reason or another (which explains my current obsession with game hardware).

I can't recall ever purchasing anything as a financial investment, gaming-wise.  But I do understand why so many do.  Making money simply by placing into a financial institution simply isn't possible anymore.  It only guarantees that it will LOSE value, so people are investing in commodities a lot more it would seem.  


One thing I'd definitely like to add, there are a LOT of guys out there with insane, I mean fucking insane collections that would make these guys who "hold records" and whatnot cry like little girls. I've met some of them and seen some bits and pieces of their collections.  These are the guys who don't typically spend time chatting on forums and showing off pictures, though most of them are VERY aware of what's happening on the big forums (they are collectors, and many of the forums are good places to source desirable items).

It always amuses me when people on NA and other such places are insistent and would swear on a bible that X game is sooooooo rare simply because of their own personal experience shopping for said game or game-related item.  What they fail to realize is that the market is much larger than what the Internet will reveal with a Google search or is available at their local flea markets.  Are you in the market for a Ferarri F40?  Probably not. So why would you think you'd know where to buy one?  

[wiggy]

I don't collect because of the value. Not at all.

Some things I collect because I genuinely want to play them (some day), while other items are just interesting to me for one reason or another (which explains my current obsession with game hardware).

I can't recall ever purchasing anything as a financial investment, gaming-wise.  But I do understand why so many do.  Making money simply by placing into a financial institution simply isn't possible anymore.  It only guarantees that it will LOSE value, so people are investing in commodities a lot more it would seem.  


One thing I'd definitely like to add, there are a LOT of guys out there with insane, I mean fucking insane collections that would make these guys who "hold records" and whatnot cry like little girls. I've met some of them and seen some bits and pieces of their collections.  These are the guys who don't typically spend time chatting on forums and showing off pictures, though most of them are VERY aware of what's happening on the big forums (they are collectors, and many of the forums are good places to source desirable items).

It always amuses me when people on NA and other such places are insistent and would swear on a bible that X game is sooooooo rare simply because of their own personal experience shopping for said game or game-related item.  What they fail to realize is that the market is much larger than what the Internet will reveal with a Google search or is available at their local flea markets.  Are you in the market for a Ferarri F40?  Probably not. So why would you think that you'd know where to buy one?  

[Seraph Man]

I've always been of the camp that collects things because it holds value to me. Sure, I have things I've never opened that are part of my collection. But I got them because I wanted to own it, not because it's rare or because I can resell, or any other reason. I have no interest in things like Stadium Events or any of that. Now, if I were a collector of Sports games or Olympic games memorabilia, then I would be more interested. But even then, I'm not a CIB guy, or a Variant guy. One copy of something is good enough for me, and in terms of video games, I'm going to open that copy and I'm going to play it. That's why I got it; so I can enjoy the medium.

I also don't try to brag about my collection. My collection is there for me. I may show it off because I love sharing my passion, but I know my collection is puny. And even if it weren't, even if I had (in my case) a collection to rival Forte or even surpass him, I wouldn't brag. I would, and do, admire his collection as someone who shares an interest in collecting, and more specifically collecting the same thing. I collect for me, not for attention.

[amiga1200]

  ^^ well said!
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i didn't watch much of the clip, i was losing patience with the narration, not one for grating human voices.  
my shit brags about itself, one way i dick swing by posting a text about what i picked up/got given.
the other posts are scans themselves, ergo, what i do speaks loader than words. (i'm of the mindset, if you're gonna shout about it, share it you tw*ts!)
sadly, a lot of my shit can't be scanned as a raw image to be used as game cover alternate/replacement, can't scan tech.  
i have posted a brief overview of my shit, but above said it best:
it doesn't make you cool, it doesn't get you laid, doesn't get you liked (but the reverse in some cases) but puts you on a special kind of list. (last ad-lib be me)
scans are one way to dick swing and pay for it, MAKE the post useful and count if shit is to be talked about.  
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typo.

[PinBiohazard]

something else I would like to add to this conversation, what do you guys think when people buy prototype games and sells them on for a high price and doesn't say maybe get the rom dumped so others can't play it, it makes sense in a Money making way but not in the Love of gaming way

[Arseen]

something else I would like to add to this conversation, what do you guys think when people buy prototype games and sells them on for a high price and doesn't say maybe get the rom dumped so others can't play it, it makes sense in a Money making way but not in the Love of gaming way

Well dumping proto makes sense if it differs greatly from the final product... Like the finished copy of Starfox 2 hidden somewhere in some vault.

[amiga1200]

 
i could go on, and critique that, but no need, it's academic where i stand with gougers, nothing i can do about it, other than vote with brains, and instincts (aka: common sense) and go elsewhere.
there's good and bad in all walk of life, this is no different.
some are for real
some are casual...
and some know how to make money, for better or for worse.
unfortunately for myself, i don't possess the capacity to DO something about it, in the MOST extreme way. (what i consider fair could easily be considered the complete opposite by the collective hive-mind.)
reality bites, so keep eyes open for the good guys, plenty of them, just gotta look hard enough.  

[PinBiohazard]

i could go on, and critique that, but no need, it's academic where i stand with gougers, nothing i can do about it, other than vote with brains, and instincts (aka: common sense) and go elsewhere.
there's good and bad in all walk of life, this is no different.
some are for real
some are casual...
and some know how to make money, for better or for worse.
unfortunately for myself, i don't possess the capacity to DO something about it, in the MOST extreme way. (what i consider fair could easily be considered the complete opposite by the collective hive-mind.)
reality bites, so keep eyes open for the good guys, plenty of them, just gotta look hard enough.  

Well vote with Brains and Wallet although my money seems to float away from my wallet