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Megatron:

--- Quote from: FritzWhite on February 17, 2016, 11:13:08 PM ---It's not an issue because it's not illegal. If guns are outlawed, the cartel will meet the demand that will form in that void. They're successful in getting other things across the border so why would guns be any different? They'll go where the money is like they always have.

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They already do. lol Your argument is that with residential disarmament the cartels will flood guns in to the country (again, which some already do) and "the bad people" will get them?
Again, I'm not taking sides in this, but first of all there is a difference between partial and total disarmament (meaning owning a shotgun vs an assault rifle are two different things). Second, this "void" won't exist. Besides, the vast majority of these 'bad people' are dealt with by authorities, not civilians.
This particular argument is based on fear, not facts.

Please, go back to your discussion about the ethicallity and whatnot, but remember that ,some of us actually have first hand experience with some stuff. :D

FritzWhite:

--- Quote from: Megatron on February 17, 2016, 11:24:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: FritzWhite on February 17, 2016, 11:13:08 PM ---It's not an issue because it's not illegal. If guns are outlawed, the cartel will meet the demand that will form in that void. They're successful in getting other things across the border so why would guns be any different? They'll go where the money is like they always have.

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They already do. lol Your argument is that with residential disarmament the cartels will flood guns in to the country (again, which some already do) and "the bad people" will get them?
Again, I'm not taking sides in this, but first of all there is a difference between partial and total disarmament (meaning owning a shotgun vs an assault rifle are two different things). Second, this "void" won't exist. Besides, the vast majority of these 'bad people' are dealt with by authorities, not civilians.
This particular argument is based on fear, not facts.

Please, go back to your discussion about the ethicallity and whatnot, but remember that ,some of us actually have first hand experience with some stuff. :D

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You are so condescending I don't even want to address you, but how can you give yourself so much credit for living near the border and having a government job. I'm an hour from you and I don't bring up my locale to pump my credibility.

Secondly, partial disarmament is a precursor to total disarmament. You can laugh all you want about your knowledge on the subject of the cartels already bringing guns in, but it's not going to be very funny to me if I I'm disarmed to maintain my status as a law abiding citizen.

You put too much faith in the authorities to protect. It's not even their job. Also, if you want to keep being rude and pedantic then you can talk to the wall.

Megatron:
So basically when someone presents facts to counter your argument, you stick your fingers in your ears and walk away?

***Quick edit*** Really? I don't even disagree with your STANCE on the matter.
But if you can't handle someone debunking your opinion, then you're arguing with emotion which may as well not even be an argument at all - cause it's pointless on both sides.

FritzWhite:

--- Quote from: Megatron on February 17, 2016, 11:50:42 PM ---So basically when someone presents facts to counter your argument, you stick your fingers in your ears and walk away?

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What facts are you referring to that I didn't just address? I'm not walking away from anything. You tried to argue with me last year and back then you also referenced your career to lend yourself credibility. You're regurgitating the same stuff. Is that what you do in your day to day life every time you get into it with someone?

"I'm a behavior health therapist from San Diego, blah, blah..." Get some new material already; you sound stale.

I know you're probably hovering over your keyboard right now, breathing heavily and clicking refresh, but I have stuff to take care of so I can't respond as quickly.

Megatron:

--- Quote from: FritzWhite on February 18, 2016, 12:08:36 AM ---What facts are you referring to that I didn't just address? I'm not walking away from anything. You tried to argue with me last year and back then you also referenced your career to lend yourself credibility. You're regurgitating the same stuff. Is that what you do in your day to day life every time you get into it with someone?

"I'm a behavior health therapist from San Diego, blah, blah..." Get some new material already; you sound stale.

I know you're probably hovering over your keyboard right now, breathing heavily and clicking refresh, but I have stuff to take care of so I can't respond as quickly.

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I bring up my credentials not to brag or showboat (it's not something that brings in the money, if that's what you think). I do it because I have credibility. I'm not some guy with an opinion and a google search bar. You presented BS facts, and I called you out on it. Now instead of admitting you got overzealous with your opinion, or offering actual facts/information on the subject, you attack my character. Which means you have little or nothing to actually back up anything you say. And the only reason I actually continue on with this, is because I find it funny to hear what others have to say when they're angry.

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