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| Polygon:
--- Quote from: Arseen on February 10, 2016, 05:08:11 PM ---If gun owning would be made illegal they would, as it would not be against the oath anymore. --- End quote --- It's not that simple. |
| palmer6strings:
Arseen, I really don't think you understand. The Constitution is pretty much above law. It is LAW. It was put in place so laws could not overpower it. It's like saying you don't have freedom of speech anymore. It's not as simple as taking a vote to repeal the constitution... |
| Arseen:
--- Quote from: palmer6strings on February 10, 2016, 11:52:23 PM ---Arseen, I really don't think you understand. The Constitution is pretty much above law. It is LAW. It was put in place so laws could not overpower it. It's like saying you don't have freedom of speech anymore. It's not as simple as taking a vote to repeal the constitution... --- End quote --- I know constitution is above normal law, but constitution can be amended (or what's the English word). Not easy but it can happen right? |
| Megatron:
I don't give two shits about this topic. But this made me laugh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rR9IaXH1M0 |
| SkapeGote:
Hey, I lived in Toronto up until 2 years ago. I never locked my door. I had two break ins. Both time is was someone looking to steal something to support a drug habit. Both times they were caught and both times they weren't there to harm me. I currently work in mental health. I think guns as home defence is a bit comical. regardless, in Canada, we have more guns per capita than the USA. The difference seems to be empathy and education. I am not going to shoot a man for stealing my laptop. I am not killing a man over stuff. The one guy came in, stole my laptop and ran. Cops caught him. He wasn't dangerous, he was desperate. If you want to fix the gun violence issue in the States, here is my opinion. Tell the NRA to piss off and die. Create an organization that educates the public. Not gun education, but how to be kind and sympathetic. Teach people to not respond to every offence with violence and anger. In my case, I don't hate the guy who stole my laptop, and I don't feel sorry for him. He is the product of something else, probably out of his control. Bad parents maybe. I have one client i work with whose mother fed him opiates as a child to calm him down. He has been an addict since he was 8. I shouldn't loath him, and I don't. I get why he steals. Teaching compassion is far more important than puffing up your chest and claiming "I need to protect my family". If you really wanted to protect them you would have a group lobby for clean needle exchanges, methadone clinics and the like. Proper support for people with mental health issues, housing first initiatives. We do a lot of things like that in Canada, and everyone of them has been met with a significant statistical drop in crime. Proven drop. So instead of funnelling money into worthless self absorbed things like the NRA, protect your gun rights by making sure the most vulnerable populations won't feel the need to pick one up to score their next hit. As for gangs, most of there money comes from the drug trade. Eliminate the drug trade the gangs will have a hard time thriving. Now can all this be eliminated completely, probably not. But you cant argue with a 80 or 90 percent decrease in violent crimes in certain areas, and those are actual numbers I have seen. I want to see you guys have guns, but only for sport. I want you and your buddies to head to a range for a day and crack off a few rounds, come home, have a few beer, kiss your kids good night and lock those guns away feeling safe. And feeling safe not because you own a gun, but because you know there is no need to others to use one against you. Skape |
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