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Arseen:
In the end the result is up to the military as no amount of civilians with guns would stand a chance against it.

Somehow I think that if the government/president would go berserk, leaders of the military would have sense to object the attack and stand down against civilians.

On the other hand if some civilian/militia/semi-military group would try coop, the military would lay waste of them.
Polygon:

--- Quote from: Arseen on February 10, 2016, 02:50:52 PM ---In the end the result is up to the military as no amount of civilians with guns would stand a chance against it.

Somehow I think that if the government/president would go berserk, leaders of the military would have sense to object the attack and stand down against civilians.

On the other hand if some civilian/militia/semi-military group would try coop, the military would lay waste of them.


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And this was my point. If the Government tried to do something drastic like that they wouldn't have the support of the military. At least not the majority of it. Including local law enforcement.
Arseen:

--- Quote from: Polygon on February 10, 2016, 03:07:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: Arseen on February 10, 2016, 02:50:52 PM ---In the end the result is up to the military as no amount of civilians with guns would stand a chance against it.

Somehow I think that if the government/president would go berserk, leaders of the military would have sense to object the attack and stand down against civilians.

On the other hand if some civilian/militia/semi-military group would try coop, the military would lay waste of them.


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And this was my point. If the Government tried to do something drastic like that they wouldn't have the support of the military. At least not the majority of it. Including local law enforcement.

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I said that if goverment would go berserk as in doing something that would hurt people the military would probably take stance against it, but taking guns away from people... the fuck military would object taking guns away from unknown possibly idiotic entities, especially assault weapons.
Polygon:

--- Quote from: Arseen on February 10, 2016, 04:15:31 PM ---I said that if goverment would go berserk as in doing something that would hurt people the military would probably take stance against it, but taking guns away from people... the fuck military would object taking guns away from unknown possibly idiotic entities, especially assault weapons.

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I'm not going to get into the absurdity of "assault" weapons. Anything you assault someone with is an assault weapon. And the guns being defined as assault weapons are rarely used in shootings. Most shootings involve shotguns and pistols. Also, they are merely semi-automatic rifles. There's nothing special about them besides the way they look.

As for the confiscating guns, that is a violation of the 2nd Amendment and the Constitution. All government officials including the military and law enforcement have sworn to protect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. I believe that the vast majority would not go against that oath.
Arseen:

--- Quote from: Polygon on February 10, 2016, 04:55:05 PM ---As for the confiscating guns, that is a violation of the 2nd Amendment and the Constitution. All government officials including the military and law enforcement have sworn to protect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. I believe that the vast majority would not go against that oath.

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If gun owning would be made illegal they would, as it would not be against the oath anymore.
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