Death to the PS Vita!!??

[Einhander]

This dude... OMG...

Anyway. I pretty much got the answers I was looking for.

So thanks for your opinions everybody. Except Einhander... You can go play in traffic.

Oh I should ask, do you all prefer the original style or the slim? To me the slim looks like junk. Is the much of a difference?

What's your problem? I was giving you facts. I googled PS Vita 2 and Sony says they won't release it due to smartphone games, which proves my point. Now, even though there won't be any more sony handhelds, that doesn't mean we can't appreciate history and play gameboys, psps, etc.. I was just saying the future of mobile is smartphone, smartphone, smartphone.

And you need to get the original Vita because it has a better screen. That's a fact.

[sheep2001]

His problem is, you are refusing to accept anyone else's opinion on smart phone gaming - some people don't like it.  Get over it.  For casual games like Peggle, scrabble, etc - phones and tablets are great.  For real games, including the shooters you mention, some of us hate using the touch screen.  Now if you are happy to using on screen controls, or pull out a controller and somehow prop up your device when you get on a train, then you're very welcome to your opinion.  I would rather have a dedicated device like the vita, or not bother at all.  Different strokes for different folks. 

The main reason that the vita is struggling, is because the games are so much more expensive than smart phone games.  Even games that exist on both formats.  Take angry birds as an example.  No reason for it to cost 10 times as much on the vita.  If Sony WANT to make handheld gaming work, they need to address their price structure.  Same goes for their digital releases on home consoles, but that's a whole different discussion.

[Nacho3]

This dude... OMG...

Anyway. I pretty much got the answers I was looking for.

So thanks for your opinions everybody. Except Einhander... You can go play in traffic.

Oh I should ask, do you all prefer the original style or the slim? To me the slim looks like junk. Is the much of a difference?

What's your problem? I was giving you facts. I googled PS Vita 2 and Sony says they won't release it due to smartphone games, which proves my point. Now, even though there won't be any more sony handhelds, that doesn't mean we can't appreciate history and play gameboys, psps, etc.. I was just saying the future of mobile is smartphone, smartphone, smartphone.

And you need to get the original Vita because it has a better screen. That's a fact.

You are an idiot. That's a fact. I googled it.

[palmer6strings]

Thank you sheep for putting it into better words than I could. That is the best way to put it.

And LOL @Nacho, that made me laugh.

[wiggy]

His problem is, you are refusing to accept anyone else's opinion on smart phone gaming - some people don't like it.  Get over it.  For casual games like Peggle, scrabble, etc - phones and tablets are great.  For real games, including the shooters you mention, some of us hate using the touch screen.  Now if you are happy to using on screen controls, or pull out a controller and somehow prop up your device when you get on a train, then you're very welcome to your opinion.  I would rather have a dedicated device like the vita, or not bother at all.  Different strokes for different folks. 

The main reason that the vita is struggling, is because the games are so much more expensive than smart phone games.  Even games that exist on both formats.  Take angry birds as an example.  No reason for it to cost 10 times as much on the vita.  If Sony WANT to make handheld gaming work, they need to address their price structure.  Same goes for their digital releases on home consoles, but that's a whole different discussion.

That, and 99% of adult men have no desire to carry around such a device. I know I sure don't. I only have so much pocket space, and I don't see cargo pants coming back in style any time soon, so big-ass electronic devices besides my phone aren't going anywhere with me aside from the shitter on my second floor.

[Einhander]

His problem is, you are refusing to accept anyone else's opinion on smart phone gaming - some people don't like it.  Get over it.  For casual games like Peggle, scrabble, etc - phones and tablets are great.  For real games, including the shooters you mention, some of us hate using the touch screen.  Now if you are happy to using on screen controls, or pull out a controller and somehow prop up your device when you get on a train, then you're very welcome to your opinion.  I would rather have a dedicated device like the vita, or not bother at all.  Different strokes for different folks. 

The main reason that the vita is struggling, is because the games are so much more expensive than smart phone games.  Even games that exist on both formats.  Take angry birds as an example.  No reason for it to cost 10 times as much on the vita.  If Sony WANT to make handheld gaming work, they need to address their price structure.  Same goes for their digital releases on home consoles, but that's a whole different discussion.

But you can purchase a dedicated controller for phones

[Einhander]

His problem is, you are refusing to accept anyone else's opinion on smart phone gaming - some people don't like it.  Get over it.  For casual games like Peggle, scrabble, etc - phones and tablets are great.  For real games, including the shooters you mention, some of us hate using the touch screen.  Now if you are happy to using on screen controls, or pull out a controller and somehow prop up your device when you get on a train, then you're very welcome to your opinion.  I would rather have a dedicated device like the vita, or not bother at all.  Different strokes for different folks. 

The main reason that the vita is struggling, is because the games are so much more expensive than smart phone games.  Even games that exist on both formats.  Take angry birds as an example.  No reason for it to cost 10 times as much on the vita.  If Sony WANT to make handheld gaming work, they need to address their price structure.  Same goes for their digital releases on home consoles, but that's a whole different discussion.

That, and 99% of adult men have no desire to carry around such a device. I know I sure don't. I only have so much pocket space, and I don't see cargo pants coming back in style any time soon, so big-ass electronic devices besides my phone aren't going anywhere with me aside from the shitter on my second floor.

Sony handhelds should be slim like smart phones have become. Why don't Sony start releasing their own smart phones?

[palmer6strings]

The so called controller's, for one, only support games that allow support for controllers. Soooo that's a no go. Also, two, if I wanted to carry around a damn controller w/ my fucking phone, I'll just go ahead and carry around a damned handheld that plays games better.

So why are you being such an extremist towards my non liking of a smart phone? Tell me.

But before you do, let me tell you something. I HAVE A FUCKING SMART PHONE. I've used many. Fuck, I work on electronics all the god damned time. Ranging from smart phones to fucking cars.

And you? You can't even change a fucking hard drive in a PS3 without being a crybaby about it. Do you even know what an electrode or diode does? Without looking it up, I'd say prolly not. Now you have your opinion, which is right for you, but it's not right for me. So quit with your mother fucking Jehovah's Witness bullshit on fucking smart phones.

They are toys that we are told we need by major companies that just want your money. They do more of what simple people want like you, and less than what people with specific needs currently use. So I want to hardcore game, I'm not going to look at a phone. I'm going to use a console of some type. I want to write and record music, I'll use a computer and other specific items to record, not a fucking phone.

I use my "smart" phone a lot. Mainly for contacting the people I need to contact and keeping up with news and writing notes and a little sidekick. So go the hell away with your childlike antics.

Wiggy is one of my best friends. Him and I get along real well and this by no means relates to him. He likes what he likes, I like what I like and we both understand that about each other. But he doesn't tell me what I need to do. That's why when he tells me he likes using his phone for gaming I respect it.

Excuse the errors, I was in a hurry and am angry.

[Einhander]

The so called controller's, for one, only support games that allow support for controllers. Soooo that's a no go. Also, two, if I wanted to carry around a damn controller w/ my fucking phone, I'll just go ahead and carry around a damned handheld that plays games better.

So why are you being such an extremist towards my non liking of a smart phone? Tell me.

But before you do, let me tell you something. I HAVE A FUCKING SMART PHONE. I've used many. Fuck, I work on electronics all the god damned time. Ranging from smart phones to fucking cars.

And you? You can't even change a fucking hard drive in a PS3 without being a crybaby about it. Do you even know what an electrode or diode does? Without looking it up, I'd say prolly not. Now you have your opinion, which is right for you, but it's not right for me. So quit with your mother fucking Jehovah's Witness bullshit on fucking smart phones.

They are toys that we are told we need by major companies that just want your money. They do more of what simple people want like you, and less than what people with specific needs currently use. So I want to hardcore game, I'm not going to look at a phone. I'm going to use a console of some type. I want to write and record music, I'll use a computer and other specific items to record, not a fucking phone.

I use my "smart" phone a lot. Mainly for contacting the people I need to contact and keeping up with news and writing notes and a little sidekick. So go the hell away with your childlike antics.

Wiggy is one of my best friends. Him and I get along real well and this by no means relates to him. He likes what he likes, I like what I like and we both understand that about each other. But he doesn't tell me what I need to do. That's why when he tells me he likes using his phone for gaming I respect it.

Excuse the errors, I was in a hurry and am angry.

No idea why you are angry at me, especially if you have a smart phone. You are right that smart phones might to do things as well as some dedicated devices but I just wanted to point out that they are advancing. Vita is going to die out, right? Smartphones will keep on advancing. Now the controller is optional and you don't have to bring it with you if you don't want to. But what you have to understand is that Vita games are also mostly touch screens too. When I play Rayman Legends, a lot of the game is touch. The reason is because Vita tried to be like a smart phone, so keep that in mind.

Now as far as Vita, yea it's gonna be done very soon. Sony has no more interest in trying to compete with Smartphones and tablets. Now you can call smartphones a toy, but what about Vita? Is that not a toy as well?

Now as far as your smartphone, is it an iPhone or Android? And what games have you tried? I used to think the games were bad but then Sheep told me I may be interested in smart phones because they have a lot of simple, action games and he was right. I do like a lot of smartphone games now.  But keep in mind, I'm also talking about the future. The Vita doesn't have a future and there is not going to be a Vita 2. Smartphones are going to optimize virtual reality, etc.. But I don't know if the Nintendo NX is going to be good either. It could be the last Nintendo console if it doesn't truly push some units.

[marioxb]

Sony handhelds should be slim like smart phones have become. Why don't Sony start releasing their own smart phones?

Ever heard of the Sony Xperia?

http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-z/

My wife has an Xperia Z3 and she loves it. It can actually interface with the PS3 and PS4. But to say that smart phones are better for playing games than dedicated handhelds is just stupid. Depends on the game, but any game that uses buttons, never better on a phone.

[Einhander]

Sony handhelds should be slim like smart phones have become. Why don't Sony start releasing their own smart phones?

Ever heard of the Sony Xperia?

http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-z/

My wife has an Xperia Z3 and she loves it. It can actually interface with the PS3 and PS4. But to say that smart phones are better for playing games than dedicated handhelds is just stupid. Depends on the game, but any game that uses buttons, never better on a phone.

Wait a minute so that phone is basically a sony handheld for games?

[sheep2001]

You seriously didn't know that Sony made smartphones?  You come in here all Johnny big bollocks shouting off about smart phones this, smart phones that, smartphones are the best thing ever, and yet you didn't even know about one of the big producers?  If you had a REAL interest in technology and staying 'on trend', you would research stuff before you buy your latest apple product.  See what else is out there, not just blindly follow the crowd.  I think it's obvious to everyone now - you just want to be one of the flock - it's easier.  That way you don't have to do any research, or think for yourself.  Just wait for the movement of the masses and follow blindly.  That's absolutely fine.  Plenty of people do it.  But don't then try and cast an opinion like someone who knows the industry inside out. 

[palmer6strings]

Ya I just had to stop responding to this fucking moron. Otherwise it was gonna keep going and going. Once he said that sony should make smartphones... I couldn't handle it anymore.

[shenske]

Don't feed the troll, ignore him

[sheep2001]

Don't feed the troll, ignore him

I know, I know.  I'm weak, I can't help myself. Lol 

Besides, it's Christmas, got to throw him a few scraps for Christmas.