Author Topic: Going component on my Genesis 1, want HDMI conversion. Ideas?  (Read 322 times)

December 12, 2015, 10:40:58 PM
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Madducky

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I have a Component cable for my Genesis 1 on it's way through the Kickstarter from http://www.hdretrovision.com.

Can anyone reccoment a good component to HDMI converter? I see several on the market and I'm not sure what I should be looking for.

thanks!!

December 13, 2015, 11:03:15 PM
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Polygon

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There are a lot of pitfalls here. The biggest one is lag. You're going to introduce lag with HDMI. If you're going to do this you don't just want a converter. I have yet to see one that doesn't look like crap. You want one that has a good scaler as well. The one I'd suggest would be the XRGB mini. Relatively low lag, a lot of features, and a very good scaler. The downside is the price. Roughly around $300.

Or, you can wait as the guys at HD Retrovision are working on a less expensive scaler as a lot of LCDs don't like to display 240p over component. Or, my suggestion would be to use a CRT. If you have the room.

December 13, 2015, 11:29:42 PM
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I already have a fantastic SD Toshiba CRT with component input. It's not HD but it looks beautiful.

I'm used to dealing with home theatre components where lag isn't an issue. My Laserdisc player goes through a Faroudja scan doubler and it looks great, but has lag.

I guess I'll just have to wait it out. But the HD retrovision cable should help quite a bit when it ships. Their updates are very encouraging!

December 14, 2015, 10:22:20 AM
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Same as polygon. Analog to digital conversion will add lag. I'm lucky to have a TV to takes the 240p on component pretty well.

December 14, 2015, 12:24:18 PM
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Yeah, I pretty excited for these cables. I also backed the Kickstarter for three cables. The updates are certainly exciting. I love how they've moved to these adapters with the Genesis cables to make them work with with the Saturn and PS1 now. I'm going to have to order those as soon as they done.

I'm lucky that my LCD takes 240p over component as well. But I just love to play the old consoles on an SD CRT. Plus, light guns works. :)

December 14, 2015, 08:31:32 PM
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Polygon - you bring up my greatest worry!
My LED TV is listed on their compatibility list, but fails the B&W test that they recommend!
My CRT is SD, and it can handle from RF to component. I think I'll be using this one until better converters are made.


As a side note, I also am using a PSP (PSP 2000/3000) to component adapter box, and it has no lag whatsoever; not even when switched between 720P and 1080P modes.
« Last Edit: December 14, 2015, 10:19:47 PM by Madducky »

December 14, 2015, 09:04:24 PM
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I'm really looking forward to the HD Retrovision cables.  Didn't have any funds when the kickstarter was running, so I missed out on backing it and have to wait until they have them for sale.  Am currently using a scart to component setup, which looks excellent, but it'll be nice to simplify the number of cables needed to get such picture quality.
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December 14, 2015, 10:16:45 PM
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Polygon - you bring up my greatest worry!
My LED TV is listed on their compatibility list, but fails the B&W test that they recommend!
My CRT is SD, and it can handle RF unto component. I think I'll be using this one until better converters are made.


As a side note, I also am using a PSP (PSP 2000/3000) to component adapter box, and it has no lag whatsoever; not even when switched between 720P and 1080P modes.

Yeah, you won't see any lag using component. It's the conversion from analog to digital where you get the lag.

I'm really looking forward to the HD Retrovision cables.  Didn't have any funds when the kickstarter was running, so I missed out on backing it and have to wait until they have them for sale.  Am currently using a scart to component setup, which looks excellent, but it'll be nice to simplify the number of cables needed to get such picture quality.

Same here. My Genesis 1 is currently using SCART to component. I hate how frail the SCART cables are. And I had to adjust the pots on my converter since the green was a little oversaturated. I'm just glad I didn't invest in SCART for all my old systems.

December 15, 2015, 03:26:11 PM
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I'm using SCART to Component on a CRT now, but I may invest in one of these direct component cables when they become available in order to reduce my clutter a bit, as well as being able to quickly connect my Genesis' from one TV to another.

Can't beat component for picture quality - the games look amazing in their native 240p.  Although, like Polygon said above, I had to adjust the color pots inside the converter.  My red still seems over saturated, but I can't seem to fix it.
« Last Edit: December 15, 2015, 03:28:21 PM by redsox2012 »

December 16, 2015, 10:37:30 AM
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SCART RGB is tempting, but last time I went SCART, with my Amiga, it was too fiddley, and the cable broke.