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Last-gen ports: Opinions?
Thom Grayson:
The existence of last-gen ports is making people say 'see, no reason to upgrade!' and then more ports get made because 'look how many people are still playing last-gen consoles'.
There are people at my work who keep on making conditional statements along the lines of 'if X game isn't coming to my system, I'm going to upgrade'. One person in particular actually did it - the lack of single-player in Black Ops 3 on PS3 equaled a preorder for the PS4 Black Ops 3 bundle and most of his PS3 games being sold.
I've got no idea how common that mindset is, but if it's even slightly common, we could see a significant increase in sales when last-gen support is totally dropped.
wiggy:
--- Quote from: Araden64 on October 06, 2015, 06:47:32 PM ---I think the ports are awesome. I missed out on PS3 because of the higher price at launch and because I ended up going with the 360.
Now that I'm on PS4 I get to play some of the games I missed out on like The Last of Us and the Uncharted Trilogy very soon.
I also read somewhere that it's actually a very small amount of current gen games that are ports of older ones. I'll try to find the link later.
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But you can get a PS3 for so little now, and the games you mentioned are dirt cheap at this point. You can pay $60 for 3 very old Uncharted games on the PS4, or about 10 bucks for all three for the PS3.
Umbra:
--- Quote from: wiggy on October 09, 2015, 09:03:45 PM ---But you can get a PS3 for so little now, and the games you mentioned are dirt cheap at this point. You can pay $60 for 3 very old Uncharted games on the PS4, or about 10 bucks for all three for the PS3.
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Yeah, I'm not the biggest fan of re-releasing games that are already out, just ported to a next-gen console years afterwards, with the exception of full-on graphical remakes of games that are still popular (ex. Halo/Fable Anniversary). And personally, some of these next-gen collections just don't make sense. Prime example would be The Master Chief Collection. If I was Microsoft, I'd have just used Halo 4's engine to remaster Halo 2 so that everyone can be happy having all of the major Halo games on one system (anyone else remember how irritated that got a lot of people?), and instead of devoting the time/money into upscaling Halo 3 and 4 with a slapped-on multiplayer that was stripped down in some aspects, I'd have devoted that time/money to working on Halo 5.
These collections are just kind of a way to sell consoles when the console developers know they don't have enough strong material to sell one on its own, in my opinion. Killer apps don't really exist anymore it seems. I mean, the PS2/3 and Xbox 360 didn't rely on remakes of old games to sell them.
wiggy:
I seriously think part of the problem with the current gen consoles isn't the lack of games, but rather that they're just not really a significant jump over the last gen. I'm playing Forza 5 and 6, and yeah, they look great, but not like the jump from PS1 to PS2 and then to PS3. I'm really starting to think that Sony should have stuck with their 10 year plan for the PS3. It seems really logical at this point, to be perfectly honest.
Thom Grayson:
--- Quote from: wiggy on October 10, 2015, 02:10:20 AM ---I seriously think part of the problem with the current gen consoles isn't the lack of games, but rather that they're just not really a significant jump over the last gen. I'm playing Forza 5 and 6, and yeah, they look great, but not like the jump from PS1 to PS2 and then to PS3.
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This is the issue. Severe diminishing returns have kicked in. Even if Sony and Microsoft had waited another year or 2 before putting out the PS4/X1 (with improved internals over what we have now, of course), I still don't think there would have been enough of a technology gap to impress the way previous generations had. Case in point, go back and play, say, Gears of War. It still looks and plays well, and it's quite nearly 10 years old.
Or, to stick with your Forza example, play Forza 2. It still looks and plays well enough. Is Forza 6 better? Maybe, but it certainly doesn't feel like EIGHT YEARS worth of improvement.