4K TVs.. waste of time?

[marioxb]

Why don't they just have HD last as long as SD did? From color TV thru HD era. Perfect! What's that, like 70 years or so? I still can't tell Blu Ray from DVD anyway myself.

[larryinc64]

I'm not sure if 4K will become the standard so soon,

VG systems are barely pushing 1080p
4K Cameras are still very expensive compared to 1080
a lot of internet around the US is not fast enough to stream 4K video,
4K does not matter on smaller TVS, same with 1080p.
Many movies are still not shit in 4K
File size is somewhat an issue for home distribution


It's like how BluRay still has not overtaken DVD, I think 1080p will be the standard for a LONG time, 8K is never going to catch on. TV companies are really pushing 4K just to sell more TVs. It's a waste. Law of diminishing returns and what not.

[TDIRunner]

Pretty much what Arseen said.  Your concern about older systems looking like crap on modern TVs is valid.  However, look at it this way.  Standard definition video games should be played on standard definition TVs.  High def video games should be played on high def TVs.  Sure, the PS3 and 360 were meant for 1080p, but it shouldn't be a problem to run them on a 4K TV since it will upscale the image.  You shouldn't need a different TV for each generation of video game system.  You should really only need 2.

Okay, that makes sense. However, I wonder if HD will no longer be HD anymore. 720 and 4k are very different. And when 8k comes out, I wonder if 720 or 1080P are even considered HD enough for it.

8K is so far out from today you shouldn't even be worrying about it.  If you are worried about 8K, then you should also be worried about 16K, 32K, 64K and so on.  

Really? 4k will be standard in 2 years right? Isn't 8 a couple years after that?

That would make 1080p about 10 years old when 4K becomes "standard."  Why would 8K be out in only two more years?  

My best recommendation is that you wait until technology has reached it's peak.  By that, I mean, don't buy anything until the best is out. If there is a chance that something better may come out, don't buy it until it does.  But don't buy THAT technology if there is a chance that something better might come out later.  Wait until the next best thing is available.  But be careful, if there is a chance that something even better may come out, continue to wait.  

 

[ZX the Hedgehog]

I dislike the fact that a lot of people say that movies don't exist in 4K. Most movies shot on film are mastered in or can be mastered in 4K, and most modern big-budget digital movies are shot in 4K or above. Many HD movies can also be UHD movies. The only exceptions would be 720/1080-filmed digital movies, or movies/TV shows which cannot be displayed in HD, the former of which actually don't upscale too badly on UHDTVs.  Of course, it still doesn't make sense until we get a physical or digital way to view these, which are soon happening with Ultra HD Blu-ray & Netflix's new 4K content.

But, yeah, 8K seems way off. The difference of quality is so little that it does almost no difference at normal viewing difference on an average TV. It only makes sense on larger projectors, for the most part.

[amiga1200]

this old gem.
i recall the crt-lcd-led wars, still raging i see.
no, it's an advancement.
in a small envoronment, sure.
in a rich bastard house with clearance? i wouldn't kick a 4k tube out of bed if she farted. 

[Einhander]

Pretty much what Arseen said.  Your concern about older systems looking like crap on modern TVs is valid.  However, look at it this way.  Standard definition video games should be played on standard definition TVs.  High def video games should be played on high def TVs.  Sure, the PS3 and 360 were meant for 1080p, but it shouldn't be a problem to run them on a 4K TV since it will upscale the image.  You shouldn't need a different TV for each generation of video game system.  You should really only need 2.

Okay, that makes sense. However, I wonder if HD will no longer be HD anymore. 720 and 4k are very different. And when 8k comes out, I wonder if 720 or 1080P are even considered HD enough for it.

8K is so far out from today you shouldn't even be worrying about it.  If you are worried about 8K, then you should also be worried about 16K, 32K, 64K and so on.  

Really? 4k will be standard in 2 years right? Isn't 8 a couple years after that?

That would make 1080p about 10 years old when 4K becomes "standard."  Why would 8K be out in only two more years?  

My best recommendation is that you wait until technology has reached it's peak.  By that, I mean, don't buy anything until the best is out. If there is a chance that something better may come out, don't buy it until it does.  But don't buy THAT technology if there is a chance that something better might come out later.  Wait until the next best thing is available.  But be careful, if there is a chance that something even better may come out, continue to wait.  

Will technology as far as tvs and phones peak anytime soon? I'm actually getting really stressed out about this. I just got a new iPhone and I only do it to keep up. And every when I got the iPhone, my little cousins laughed at it for not being the 6s plus, only the 6s. They said it was too small.

It's the same thing with consoles and HDTVs. Every single time something comes up, one of my friends will ask why I haven't bought it. One of my tech friends was asking me why I don't buy the latest Windows Computer with windows 10. And I have a dell computer and 2 MacBooks. But he's ALWAYS asking me why I don't get another computer. It is a vicious cycle. It never ends.

So in some ways I really wish technology would peak. Because I just can't keep up all the time. I miss my iPhone 5. Even though the 6s is smaller than the 6 plus and 6s plus, I still can't text or use the device with one hand. God, I'm starting to hate my phone. As soon as I use it for 30 minutes, the battery is like 50 percent. And also, now whenever I get a text, it goes to my iPad and macbook. It's like everything is too connected now. I miss the old days when it wasn't as important to keep up.

[JaredUnzipped]

Pretty much what Arseen said.  Your concern about older systems looking like crap on modern TVs is valid.  However, look at it this way.  Standard definition video games should be played on standard definition TVs.  High def video games should be played on high def TVs.  Sure, the PS3 and 360 were meant for 1080p, but it shouldn't be a problem to run them on a 4K TV since it will upscale the image.  You shouldn't need a different TV for each generation of video game system.  You should really only need 2.

Okay, that makes sense. However, I wonder if HD will no longer be HD anymore. 720 and 4k are very different. And when 8k comes out, I wonder if 720 or 1080P are even considered HD enough for it.

8K is so far out from today you shouldn't even be worrying about it.  If you are worried about 8K, then you should also be worried about 16K, 32K, 64K and so on.  

Really? 4k will be standard in 2 years right? Isn't 8 a couple years after that?

That would make 1080p about 10 years old when 4K becomes "standard."  Why would 8K be out in only two more years?  

My best recommendation is that you wait until technology has reached it's peak.  By that, I mean, don't buy anything until the best is out. If there is a chance that something better may come out, don't buy it until it does.  But don't buy THAT technology if there is a chance that something better might come out later.  Wait until the next best thing is available.  But be careful, if there is a chance that something even better may come out, continue to wait.  

Will technology as far as tvs and phones peak anytime soon? I'm actually getting really stressed out about this. I just got a new iPhone and I only do it to keep up. And every when I got the iPhone, my little cousins laughed at it for not being the 6s plus, only the 6s. They said it was too small.

It's the same thing with consoles and HDTVs. Every single time something comes up, one of my friends will ask why I haven't bought it. One of my tech friends was asking me why I don't buy the latest Windows Computer with windows 10. And I have a dell computer and 2 MacBooks. But he's ALWAYS asking me why I don't get another computer. It is a vicious cycle. It never ends.

So in some ways I really wish technology would peak. Because I just can't keep up all the time. I miss my iPhone 5. Even though the 6s is smaller than the 6 plus and 6s plus, I still can't text or use the device with one hand. God, I'm starting to hate my phone. As soon as I use it for 30 minutes, the battery is like 50 percent. And also, now whenever I get a text, it goes to my iPad and macbook. It's like everything is too connected now. I miss the old days when it wasn't as important to keep up.

You've really got to stop trying to keep up with the latest model of every tech device. Technology is obsolete even before it goes on sale at retail. If you're constantly replacing your iPhone, your MacBook, your PC, then you're going to drive yourself into poverty. Buy a good device and keep it for however long it serves your needs. So what if your little cousins laugh at you? They're freakin' kids... what do they know?! As to your friends asking you why you don't have the newest device, again... so what? If they want you to have the newest devices, then they can buy them for you.

Do what's right for you. Stop emptying your wallet for tech trends and because of peer pressure. Look at me for example... I finally bought a new PlayStation 3 in October. They were at a price point I felt comfortable paying and the PS3 has a massive library of great games. Can I afford a PS4? Absolutely I can! I'm great with money and am well off because of it. But... I won't buy a PS4 now because I'm just as happy playing old games as I am new games.

If your device/console/phone/computer makes you happy, keep it until it blows up or stops serving your needs. It's a simple as that.

(A bit of side advice... consider switching to an Android phone. I use an LG Volt and get upwards of four days out of my battery. It works great.)

[sheep2001]

I miss the old days when it wasn't as important to keep up.

How many times are we going to go down this road with you?  Technology is only important if you are worried about what your friends say.  Do you find it just as important to get the latest washing machine, fridge, car, motorcycle, oven?  They are just as technologically advanced as your phone/console/tv, but because your "friends" aren't goading you into buying them, you remain blissfully ignorant about it.

It's as important now to keep up as it always has been (in your lifetime at least), i.e.: NOT ONE BIT IMPORTANT.   it's just you've got yourself in a cycle of trying to keep up with what others have.  will anyone die if you don't have the latest gadget?  Will buying the next iPhone bring world peace?  Will having a 4K tv stop religious fanaticism or terrorism?  Will faster internet feed the world?  There are far more important things out in the real world to be genuinely concerned about, and to be frank, nobody here gives a flying rats ass that you are worried about a fucking television resolution that may or may not happen in 10 years time.  Open your eyes, grow up, read a newspaper. 

[Thom Grayson]

Pretty much everything you can buy now is 'good enough'. TVs, phones, game consoles. There's a lot less crap than there used to be.

A graphics card from a year ago, paired with a CPU from 2 or 3 years ago, can still run most modern games at acceptable levels. That simply wasn't the case even earlier this decade. The pace of improvement has slowed down a lot.

In other words, you are worrying too much.

[Einhander]

Pretty much everything you can buy now is 'good enough'. TVs, phones, game consoles. There's a lot less crap than there used to be.

A graphics card from a year ago, paired with a CPU from 2 or 3 years ago, can still run most modern games at acceptable levels. That simply wasn't the case even earlier this decade. The pace of improvement has slowed down a lot.

In other words, you are worrying too much.

That's good then. That means as time moves forward, we need to update less and less often.

I want improvements in medical technology and more useful things to be honest. We don't need to have more social media sites and smart glasses, watches, etc.. We need real advancements.

[wiggy]

Really? 4k will be standard in 2 years right? Isn't 8 a couple years after that?

No

[Jeff]

480i was an insufficient resolution. It was fine, but the image wasn't steady and a lot of fine details got lost in films.
720 and 1080p fixed that. It's much easier to notice background objects and small effects. 4K builds upon that, but I doubt most people will actually notice it

I don't think 4K is an essential improvement like the jump from SD to HD was. But still, that curved tv that I saw at best buy was a sexy beast.

[Einhander]

480i was an insufficient resolution. It was fine, but the image wasn't steady and a lot of fine details got lost in films.
720 and 1080p fixed that. It's much easier to notice background objects and small effects. 4K builds upon that, but I doubt most people will actually notice it

I don't think 4K is an essential improvement like the jump from SD to HD was. But still, that curved tv that I saw at best buy was a sexy beast.

To me, it's night and day though. When I looked at some of the 4k tvs, it felt like I was in the tv

[Einhander]

I miss the old days when it wasn't as important to keep up.

How many times are we going to go down this road with you?  Technology is only important if you are worried about what your friends say.  Do you find it just as important to get the latest washing machine, fridge, car, motorcycle, oven?  They are just as technologically advanced as your phone/console/tv, but because your "friends" aren't goading you into buying them, you remain blissfully ignorant about it.

It's as important now to keep up as it always has been (in your lifetime at least), i.e.: NOT ONE BIT IMPORTANT.   it's just you've got yourself in a cycle of trying to keep up with what others have.  will anyone die if you don't have the latest gadget?  Will buying the next iPhone bring world peace?  Will having a 4K tv stop religious fanaticism or terrorism?  Will faster internet feed the world?  There are far more important things out in the real world to be genuinely concerned about, and to be frank, nobody here gives a flying rats ass that you are worried about a fucking television resolution that may or may not happen in 10 years time.  Open your eyes, grow up, read a newspaper. 

Sheep. I was doing some thinking. About like why it bothered me how my friend doesn't have a smart phone. You know how there are PC elitists on the internet that can't stand console gamers who don't play on PC's? They constantly write on all the youtube videos that you need to play on a PC, console gaming is lousy, etc..

There are plenty of them. It's just like the PS4 and XB1 console war. They all care about what other people own and have to represent their console and argue in the comments. Then the PC fans care and they have to chime in and announce how everyone should be gaming on a PC.

I think that the way they care about what other people play games on is like how I care about how my friend doesn't have a smart phone. Is it HUMAN NATURE? To be insecure when someone doesn't have what you have or do what you do? Now I know that I DO have this flaw in my thinking but I don't know why I think like that.

[sheep2001]

I think that the way they care about what other people play games on is like how I care about how my friend doesn't have a smart phone. Is it HUMAN NATURE? To be insecure when someone doesn't have what you have or do what you do? Now I know that I DO have this flaw in my thinking but I don't know why I think like that.

No, it's not human nature to be insecure about another person having less than you - regardless of reason - to be at all concerned about his choices that are completely inconsequential to you is just downright weird!  It is a bad trait to have a superiority complex because your phone is better than his.  It's shallow, and immature.  That also goes for your friends who say the same thing about yours.  Get over it.