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Youtubers Upset over Nintendo's New affiliate program
Megatron:
--- Quote from: FritzWhite on January 31, 2015, 03:21:38 AM ---Also, nobody is belittling anybody here. We're a respectful community of adults that share similar passions and interests. Saying that people with opinions different from yours don't know what they're talking about sounds close to criticism and passing judgement to me, but to each their own.
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DO you know what you're talking about? From what I have read in this thread, and on the internet in general, I'd say most of the posters have stated they have very limited knowledge about the subject and are either Nintendo white knights, or just picking a side based on their limited knowledge. Some have even said they don't care about youtube creators and they shouldn't be making money on this.
This isn't a criticism necessarily, but if you don't know what you're talking about then you can have an opinion, but it is not an EDUCATED opinion. It's like someone hearing something from a friend fro ma friend from a friend. By the time the information gets to you, it is so diluted that often it's just a shadow of what it once was (see the telephone game). And, unfortunately, those opinions make up the majority of people
As I said, you are entitled to your opinion. But as I also said, once you voice it, I am entitled to belittle you or anyone else for having that opinion. And you are entitled to belittle me for mine. God bless free speech, right?
And you may ask - doesn't that hurt your cause or dilute your argument? That you would belittle someone over having an opinion about NINTENDO GAMES AND YOUTUBE!?
This isn't about youtube. This isn't about Nintendo. This is about rights and freedom to do things without having big business or government step in to take it away. Everybody loves watching AVGN or Egoraptor or PewDiePie until they find out they make more than you do. Then there's a twinge of jealousy. That stirring of "get a real job". And the utter entitlement feeling that youtube creators shouldn't be paid - it's just youtube. Yet people still enjoy their FREE entertainment. They still laugh at AVGN's shit jokes. They still watch Gamegrumps. They still listen to reviews, and look up walkthroughs and let's plays when a game gets too tricky. But the guy working for $13.75 an hour, or the 16 hour foreman who puts in blood and sweat into his work, all they see are a bunch of kids talking into a camera and making money because of it. "Get a REAL job."
It's the people who look down on others and judge them for what they do - who don't value a form of work or entertainment because it isn't what they consider to be "a career." And if you're OK with Nintendo taking a cut - then start to think about the clothes you wear to work. If Dockers or Haggar or Levi start taking a cut of what you make because you wear those clothes to work. Or if you're in sales, your barber wants a cut of your check because he makes your hair look good, and statistics show that the more attractive the seller, the more likely the sale. I mean, after all, you ARE showing off their work and making profit because of it.
Look, if you know about this stuff, and still side with Nintendo, then that is your choice. If you have no idea what this is and don't really care (and you actually decided to read this rant anyway), then keep on trucking. But if you don't know what you're talking about, and adamantly ague against because you feel youtube isn't a real job, or they are not entitled to be rewarded for the hard work they put it, then you are a part of the problem. This is the equivalent of the guy on his couch who thinks that "invading" is always the answer to diplomatic disputes. Or the parent who refuses to discipline their child and expects the school to make sure their child learns. Or the people who hide behind religion to complete acts of terror. Don't just have an opinion. Know WHY you have an opinion.
Megatron:
--- Quote from: larryinc64 on January 31, 2015, 03:35:01 AM ---
I am going to email Nintendo and get some answers on what Nintendo considers fair use, I see the program guided at Let's Plays and not at reviews. I could be wrong, and if I am, then my opinion on the program will change.
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I would have no problem with this.
And Fritz, I am not directing this at you, we've interacted before and you're a cool guy, but rather I'm referencing people on the internet as a whole. And when you build a career working in politics and fighting overbearing legislature, you tend to develop a bit of an argumentative personality
larryinc64:
Megatron, you are blaming Nintendo for what YouTube does. You do not seem to know how Content ID works, I have been studying this as it developed, I started uploading YouTube videos in 2008.
Nintendo does not manage what individual claims are put on what video, YouTube does. Nintendo, like WMG, EMI or any other corporation looking to use content ID hands YouTube a sample of audio or video of content they hold a copyright on. The file gets put in YouTubes servers, and there is a program that scans videos uploaded for content id matches. A claim is automatically placed on the video and the video ether gets removed or has ads placed on it/ ad revenue diverted from the content maker. If the claim is false, the video maker has to contest it. IT is guilty until proven innocent. The claim is sent to the company, and they will release the claim if the claim is false and they are not evil. YouTube does not handle disputes. If the claim is wrongful and the company won't let up, you have to take them to court. YouLube does jack shit.
The company does not even have to prove they own it. I can claim the content of a video that is not mine and steal a few days of ad revenue while it gets sorted out.
The system sucks, and it has been like this for years, mostly due to Google. Many YouTubers have been struggling with this and Google has done jack shit to fix it.
Megatron:
Larry, I am referring to Nintendo's new Share Plan the "Nintendo Creator Program". This is a youtube thing - but it is mostly Nintendo, as they are the ones deciding the monentary split. Nintendo has long been a difficult IP to use and "this" is their plan to rectify that...although despite looking interesting on paper it screws the content creators. Nintendo has announced a new share plan to feature content creators who use their IP in their videos. Essentially it's a registration act.
"In order to earn the money, YouTubers can register specific videos or entire channels with Nintendo. Individual videos can earn 60% of advertising proceeds, and registered channels can earn a little more—70%."
As I have said, other Publishers have similar things...but with a 90/10 split, not 60/40. And the 70/30 split means that you register with Nintendo ALL of your videos. Meaning they take 30% of everything you put up, even if it doesn't have their content in it.
Megatron:
While I still need to do some more research as to how far back in 2012 this goes but here is what I have pieced together (very brief summary)
2012: Nintendo Announces the Nintendo Creators Program
2013: Nintendo starts claiming 100% of videos posted with Nintendo IP content using the content ID youtube bs you already talked about. This essentially drives content creators crazy
2015: Nintendo releases Nintendo Creators Program...thus "allowing" creators to use their IPs at the aforementioned percentages.
Nintendo pulled a Coca Cola. They took away something people loved. Introduced a new variable, which everyone hated. Now they release this savior to the people to solve a mess they started a few years ago. (look up New Coke if you weren't around in the 80s)
So yes, this IS Nintendo's doing. Youtube just helped them out with their shitty services. This clearly was planned by Nintendo. This was calculated and precise...and I hope it blows up in their face. Because if this works, every fucking publisher is going to have one of these and nobody will bother with game footage anymore.