HD retrovision (component) cables

[TDIRunner]

I'm still thinking about it.  They need to average $225/day to make it which seems possible.  

If I do it, I'm also thinking about the three cable package.  One for my SNES, one for my Genesis (model 2) and one for my Master System.  All of my switch boxes take component, so it would be a very simple plug and play for me.

If they make it long term, I wonder if they might be able to reverse engineer a component cable for the GameCube.  Maybe even include digital optical audio.

[Thom Grayson]

I'm still thinking about it.  They need to average $225/day to make it which seems possible.  

If I do it, I'm also thinking about the three cable package.  One for my SNES, one for my Genesis (model 2) and one for my Master System.  All of my switch boxes take component, so it would be a very simple plug and play for me.

If they make it long term, I wonder if they might be able to reverse engineer a component cable for the GameCube.  Maybe even include digital optical audio.

I'd be super excited for a cheap GC component cable, even though my Wii is basically giving me the same thing due to the backwards compatibility. Why are they so expensive anyway?

[Arseen]

Why are they so expensive anyway?

Special chip inside cable that nobody has managed (or bothered) to reproduce.

[wiggy]

Why are they so expensive anyway?

Special chip inside cable that nobody has managed (or bothered) to reproduce.

Likely this. There isn't a large enough market, by a LONGSHOT.

[lumberjoof]

It has already been cloned.

http://www.gc-forever.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=2500

[KalessinDB]

It has already been cloned.

http://www.gc-forever.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=2500

I've looked through there before and it appears to have been mostly-cloned, somewhat, if you're REALLY good at soldering and programming chips and whatnot.

My lazy ass wants it to be to the point where I can just throw money at someone and have them do the mod for me.

[TDIRunner]

Why are they so expensive anyway?

Special chip inside cable that nobody has managed (or bothered) to reproduce.

Likely this. There isn't a large enough market, by a LONGSHOT.

The chip isn't what makes it expensive.  The chip is what makes it difficult to replicate, and therefore rare (since they didn't make many to begin with).  The fact that it's rare is what makes it expensive. 

[romevi]

How do i tell if my plasma from 2005 will accept 240p properly?

Plug in a ps2 with component cables and play a ps1 game. Of you get a black screen after the ps1 boot logo your out of luck.

Maybe kind of stupid, but I tried that and it blacked out for a few seconds. About the first half of the PS1 boot screen was missing, but then it showed up and everything after played as normal.

So does that mean I get 240p properly? The manual for my TV didn't mention it.

[Jeff]

What game was it? Some games will display in 480i for 2D elements. idk if the bootscreen does that or not.

[KalessinDB]

I've also been told that you can take a normal yellow composite wire and plug it into the Y jack for component... that'll display in grayscale if you can play 240p over component.

[monjici]

How do i tell if my plasma from 2005 will accept 240p properly?

Plug in a ps2 with component cables and play a ps1 game. Of you get a black screen after the ps1 boot logo your out of luck.

Maybe kind of stupid, but I tried that and it blacked out for a few seconds. About the first half of the PS1 boot screen was missing, but then it showed up and everything after played as normal.

So does that mean I get 240p properly? The manual for my TV didn't mention it.

Sometimes my TV does that when trying to select a mode, but at the same time it displays the mode in the corner. Did you see any mode displayed when the image came back?

[romevi]

What game was it? Some games will display in 480i for 2D elements. idk if the bootscreen does that or not.

CTR.

I've also been told that you can take a normal yellow composite wire and plug it into the Y jack for component... that'll display in grayscale if you can play 240p over component.

Danke. Will try that tonight. Have to find my old PS2 composite cable.

Sometimes my TV does that when trying to select a mode, but at the same time it displays the mode in the corner. Did you see any mode displayed when the image came back?

Like "Composite" or "Video" or something like that? If so, then no. No signal mode pops up.

[monjici]

Sometimes my TV does that when trying to select a mode, but at the same time it displays the mode in the corner. Did you see any mode displayed when the image came back?

Like "Composite" or "Video" or something like that? If so, then no. No signal mode pops up.
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More like: 1920 x 1080 - 60p
I have a Samsung un55d8000, it shows a little rectangle at the top left with that info when it detects a new input mode.

[kingjohn3]

How does component compare to RGB? I know in order from worst to best its RF, then Composite, S-Video, but right about here is where I get fuzzy. I've seen it referred to as RGB/Component but I cant find any comparison pics between the two. It seems to me like using RGB to component converters defeats the purpose since the signal may be a little degraded while being converted. 

[KalessinDB]

Answers will differ based on who you talk to, but the best consensus I've found is:  RGB is probably ever so slightly "better" than YPbPr, but to the average human eye, the difference is unnoticeable.  At least I know I have never seen any difference between the two by any side-by-side comparisons.

Also, don't forget if you're in the US, your choices for true RGB are very, very limited.