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I tend to like older graphics more, any of you too?
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Thom Grayson:
I personally have no issue with either modern graphics OR 8/16-bit graphics, but there's a hole for me in the middle - the PS1/N64 era, specifically the 3D games.

The 3D just wasn't good enough for what they wanted to do with it. Not that the games aren't still fun, but graphics from that era are in a weird gray zone - not 16-bit charming or modern polished.
BensJammin:

--- Quote from: Thom Grayson on October 25, 2014, 07:30:56 PM ---I personally have no issue with either modern graphics OR 8/16-bit graphics, but there's a hole for me in the middle - the PS1/N64 era, specifically the 3D games.

The 3D just wasn't good enough for what they wanted to do with it. Not that the games aren't still fun, but graphics from that era are in a weird gray zone - not 16-bit charming or modern polished.

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I was just about to say exactly this. I love the artistic nature of the 8-bit/16-bit games where cartoon games looked as good as the TV equivalents. Although the PS1 and Saturn looked amazing at the time, early polygon games look like like shit now. And despite it being one of my favourite consoles, many N64 games look terrible with ridiculous fogging and blurring and terrible frame rates. AAA titles look awesome on it though.

Contra on NES looks a million times better than it does on ps1.

Having said that, Rayman is arguably one of the most gorgeous games ever made, and I love Astal too.
TDIRunner:

--- Quote from: Thom Grayson on October 25, 2014, 07:30:56 PM ---I personally have no issue with either modern graphics OR 8/16-bit graphics, but there's a hole for me in the middle - the PS1/N64 era, specifically the 3D games.

The 3D just wasn't good enough for what they wanted to do with it. Not that the games aren't still fun, but graphics from that era are in a weird gray zone - not 16-bit charming or modern polished.

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I know what you mean.  Of all the generations, the PS1/N64 generation's graphics seemed to have aged the worse.  With that said, there are still a ton of great games from that time. 
Einhander:

--- Quote from: TDIRunner on October 25, 2014, 09:29:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: Thom Grayson on October 25, 2014, 07:30:56 PM ---I personally have no issue with either modern graphics OR 8/16-bit graphics, but there's a hole for me in the middle - the PS1/N64 era, specifically the 3D games.

The 3D just wasn't good enough for what they wanted to do with it. Not that the games aren't still fun, but graphics from that era are in a weird gray zone - not 16-bit charming or modern polished.

--- End quote ---

I know what you mean.  Of all the generations, the PS1/N64 generation's graphics seemed to have aged the worse.  With that said, there are still a ton of great games from that time. 

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It's all a matter of perspective because I love PS1 graphics. What others find old and block, I find retro and artistic. Games like Einhander still look good. When I look at PS1, I tell myself, this was where it all started. Now games like Tomb Raider look bad to me because I can't see it well, but not all games are as bad for me.
BensJammin:
Looking back at it I think it is probably just the games they tried to remake that are the bad ones. I recently played sensible soccer on ps1 for the first time and couldn't believe how they made one of the best football games ever into complete garbage. I think a lack of understanding of 3D didn't help. Some games on ps1 are near unplayable because of clipping, bad camera angles etc.

I'm still a massive fan of ridge racer 1, and think it's held up so well to this day. On the flip side I picked up ntsc-j wipeout on Saturn at the Play Expo... Why did the devs murder that port so badly? The graphics are awful.
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