Author Topic: Are EM shields necessary in old consoles?  (Read 334 times)

July 29, 2014, 02:55:53 PM
Read 334 times

Jeff

  • ***
  • Information Offline
  • Full Member
  • Posts: 186
    • Email
I've tried searching around for this but I couldn't get a straight answer. Consoles tend to have these metal plates inside of them and I've read that they're either useless, decrease RF interference, help with electrical grounding, needed for the 32x, and a lot of sarcastic responses. Can someone explain how necessary they are, because it seems like you need to remove it to have room for mods.

July 29, 2014, 05:54:50 PM
Reply #1

Blumpkin

  • Owns PS4 ;D
  • ******
  • Information Offline
  • Dedicated Member
  • Posts: 1419
  • Too many games
    • Email
The only one that I'm fairly certain that I removed the plating on was on the orginal Xbox. I clear cased my old school Xbox years ago and it ran fine without the metal crap around the guts of the console.

I'm not sure if the fat PS2 and fat 360 had the same stuff. But I've clear cased those too and they worked just fine.

As long as the metal isn't attached to grounding wires I don't think that it'll matter if you remove them. But also be aware that all the consoles that I've modded aren't wi-fi capable. Not sure if that makes any difference.
My DS Cover Requests: Anno 1701, A Witch's Tale, A Witch's Wish, Black Sigil, Dynasty Warriors, Flower Sun and Rain, Mage Knight Destiny's Soldier, n+, Time Ace

July 29, 2014, 07:44:03 PM
Reply #2

Jeff

  • ***
  • Information Offline
  • Full Member
  • Posts: 186
    • Email
On a genesis (model 2 at least) there are patches of ground pins that lay underneath and make contact to the plate. That's what makes me the most concerned.

However, to make room for RCA ports I cut off a bit of a corner leaving a patch of grounds exposed. It didn't break or explode yet.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2014, 07:47:35 PM by Jeff »

July 29, 2014, 09:32:20 PM
Reply #3

Ozzy_98

  • *****
  • Information Offline
  • Hero Member
  • Posts: 637
    • Ozzy's Blog
They are legally required to be made on there.  Without them, they generate RF noise, so you'd get crappy pictures on your tv if using a RF cable (Or to much lesser extend, "rca" connectors).  Without RF shielding, they generate more RF noise than the FCC allows.

When I was a kid, when I used my C-64, it messed up my parent's TV down stairs.

July 30, 2014, 12:07:14 AM
Reply #4

KalessinDB

  • *****
  • Information Offline
  • Hero Member
  • Posts: 534
I've never gone out of my way to remove them, but I know to install the A/V jacks on my Colecovision, a bit of the shielding had to be removed.  Also, I (like most people) don't have the metal plates used to connect the Genesis to the Sega CD, and I've never had a problem.

Like others have said, they were legally required to be there, but if you have to remove part of them to do a mod, I wouldn't worry about it personally.
Attempting a complete NTSC-U NES set.  Sell me your games!
Click for What I've Got.  253/677 licensed games, 39/95(??) unlicensed

August 01, 2014, 08:02:22 AM
Reply #5

wiggy

  • The one.. the only... whatever
  • **
  • Information Offline
  • Maximum Volume Poster
  • Posts: 8241
  • Extra cheese please!
    • Rose Colored Gaming
I have a TG-16 with about half of the shielding intact, and I ran it for some time without the shielding at all.  I didn't notice any extra noise or anything like that.

That said, I wonder if lining the inside of a shell with foil tape would have the same effect as the original shielding. It would let you make use of the extra room afforded by removing the shielding.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000HBOYZO?pc_redir=1406540692&robot_redir=1

August 02, 2014, 09:40:38 AM
Reply #6

Kovorkian

  • *
  • Information Offline
  • Newbie++
  • Posts: 27
I have a TG-16 with about half of the shielding intact, and I ran it for some time without the shielding at all.  I didn't notice any extra noise or anything like that.

That said, I wonder if lining the inside of a shell with foil tape would have the same effect as the original shielding. It would let you make use of the extra room afforded by removing the shielding.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000HBOYZO?pc_redir=1406540692&robot_redir=1

 You wouldn't hear RF noise.  RF noise is putting off interference in the radio Frequencies, so unless you are superman or something you wouldn't hear it.  Other electronics / radios may malfunction if near the consoles without shielding.

August 02, 2014, 11:11:49 AM
Reply #7

Arseen

  • Amiibo lover extraordinaire
  • *
  • Information Offline
  • This one has about 10 percent of all posts
  • Oversight
  • Posts: 20562
I have a TG-16 with about half of the shielding intact, and I ran it for some time without the shielding at all.  I didn't notice any extra noise or anything like that.

That said, I wonder if lining the inside of a shell with foil tape would have the same effect as the original shielding. It would let you make use of the extra room afforded by removing the shielding.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000HBOYZO?pc_redir=1406540692&robot_redir=1

 You wouldn't hear RF noise.  RF noise is putting off interference in the radio Frequencies, so unless you are superman or something you wouldn't hear it.  Other electronics / radios may malfunction if near the consoles without shielding.

Waiting for:
Doh, I know that.
I never said hear, I said notice as in: No distorted of fuzzy image on TV or such.
:P

August 02, 2014, 12:39:23 PM
Reply #8

wiggy

  • The one.. the only... whatever
  • **
  • Information Offline
  • Maximum Volume Poster
  • Posts: 8241
  • Extra cheese please!
    • Rose Colored Gaming
I have a TG-16 with about half of the shielding intact, and I ran it for some time without the shielding at all.  I didn't notice any extra noise or anything like that.

That said, I wonder if lining the inside of a shell with foil tape would have the same effect as the original shielding. It would let you make use of the extra room afforded by removing the shielding.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000HBOYZO?pc_redir=1406540692&robot_redir=1

 You wouldn't hear RF noise.  RF noise is putting off interference in the radio Frequencies, so unless you are superman or something you wouldn't hear it.  Other electronics / radios may malfunction if near the consoles without shielding.

Waiting for:
Doh, I know that.
I never said hear, I said notice as in: No distorted of fuzzy image on TV or such.
:P

^^^ This.

August 02, 2014, 01:20:20 PM
Reply #9

Ozzy_98

  • *****
  • Information Offline
  • Hero Member
  • Posts: 637
    • Ozzy's Blog
Unshielded Audio\video cables near the device work as antennas, so you could hear it in another device depending on the noise it puts out and the cable.  My C-64 used to make our VCR hum.

August 03, 2014, 03:38:26 PM
Reply #10

Thom Grayson

  • *****
  • Information Offline
  • Hero Member
  • Posts: 544
All this talk of 'shielded' consoles makes them sound like components of a nuclear reactor :P