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| Megatron:
--- Quote from: Arseen on July 02, 2014, 10:56:51 AM --- --- Quote from: Megatron on July 02, 2014, 10:47:13 AM ---... Especially with the virtual console these days, people have other options to play these old games... --- End quote --- It's that the people want physical copies of these games. Digital versions of these games are available free... --- End quote --- You can't look solely at collector's when considering the market as a whole. I will use Earthbound as an example. A few years ago, you could ONLY play this game on a Super Nintendo (not counting emulators), so if somebody wanted the game, they had to shell out whatever people asked. Which was over $200. Then in 2013 EB came to the Wii U VC. For the first time, gamers outside of Japan had an alternative way to play the game on their TV, with a controller. The sent the price of the cart down almost $100. A physical port would drop it considerably more. Market economy fact: reproductions lower the value of the original. That is why Super Metroid and TMNT IV still command higher prices, but the Zelda and Mario games can be fairly reasonable, a lack of reproduction options. Most of the Zelda/Mario titles are on many different consoles. Hell, I have the original LoZ on NES, GBA, Gamecube, Wii, Wii U and 3DS. Physical reproductions can REALLY drop the value, digital repros can have the same effect, but are usually not as great because there is no tangible ownership. Look, I'm all about good games having value, but people need to realize everything in the economy goes through a bell curve. It will eventually reach its peak value, and slowly decline after. Sometimes in peaks in a year, others it peaks in a decade. And sometimes its peak lasts for years. We are currently at the top of the bell curve (or around it at least). I don't know if we're about to hit it, or starting to go down, but my point is that in a few years, most of these games will cost considerably less than they do now. That is why video games are NOT considered a good investment. |
| Arseen:
--- Quote from: Megatron on July 02, 2014, 11:04:12 AM --- --- Quote from: Arseen on July 02, 2014, 10:56:51 AM --- --- Quote from: Megatron on July 02, 2014, 10:47:13 AM ---... Especially with the virtual console these days, people have other options to play these old games... --- End quote --- It's that the people want physical copies of these games. Digital versions of these games are available free... --- End quote --- You can't look solely at collector's when considering the market as a whole. I will use Earthbound as an example. A few years ago, you could ONLY play this game on a Super Nintendo (not counting emulators), so if somebody wanted the game, they had to shell out whatever people asked. Which was over $200. Then in 2013 EB came to the Wii U VC. For the first time, gamers outside of Japan had an alternative way to play the game on their TV, with a controller. The sent the price of the cart down almost $100. A physical port would drop it considerably more. Market economy fact: reproductions lower the value of the original. That is why Super Metroid and TMNT IV still command higher prices, but the Zelda and Mario games can be fairly reasonable, a lack of reproduction options. Most of the Zelda/Mario titles are on many different consoles. Hell, I have the original LoZ on NES, GBA, Gamecube, Wii, Wii U and 3DS. Physical reproductions can REALLY drop the value, digital repros can have the same effect, but are usually not as great because there is no tangible ownership. Look, I'm all about good games having value, but people need to realize everything in the economy goes through a bell curve. It will eventually reach its peak value, and slowly decline after. Sometimes in peaks in a year, others it peaks in a decade. And sometimes its peak lasts for years. We are currently at the top of the bell curve (or around it at least). I don't know if we're about to hit it, or starting to go down, but my point is that in a few years, most of these games will cost considerably less than they do now. That is why video games are NOT considered a good investment. --- End quote --- In my opinion Virtual console and illegal emulation are pretty much the same. You just have to pay for the other... |
| sheep2001:
It's more to do with physical print runs than repros. I would wager there were more official carts produced for any mario game, than there were things like earthbound or gargoyles quest. Rarity drives the price up, not repros driving it down. Plenty of fake designer brands available to buy, it doesn't push down the price of the real thing. |
| Megatron:
I understand your opinion, but you are a collector. Someone with advanced knowledge of the video game world, of what has value and what does not. YOU DO NOT MATTER. None of us do, at least not in the grand scheme of things. Collector's are so small in the gaming world as a whole that we are not catered to. Those selling these items look to kids who see something and want it, moms and dads who just buy toys for their kids, NEW video gamers who are starting to build their own collecitons...they are who drive the market. The mass consumers at large. You want proof? Go to any used video game store (here in the states anyway), most of them will have Super Metroid around $50 or so. The current average eBay price? $30ish. Most stores cater to the assumption that you will pay what they want because you either don't know any better, don't care, or just want the game NOW. As for eBay, look at how many game descriptions say "rare" or "collector's" or "hard to find". It's insane. People claim Earthbound, Pokemon, Zelda - all rare. You can find these games EVERYWHERE. They arent rare. But they are catering to the "dumb" masses that see the word "rare" and thikn this copy of Pokemon yellow is really worth $50. It's old, out of print and has Pikachu on it...it must be expensive. So again, games are worth whatever you are willing to pay. Just know that the majority of games right now are higher priced than they have and will be. But if you want that TMNT IV right now, and it's worth the money for you, then you should buy it. |
| Megatron:
--- Quote from: sheep2001 on July 02, 2014, 11:17:45 AM ---It's more to do with physical print runs than repros. I would wager there were more official carts produced for any mario game, than there were things like earthbound or gargoyles quest. Rarity drives the price up, not repros driving it down. Plenty of fake designer brands available to buy, it doesn't push down the price of the real thing. --- End quote --- An official re-release of a game on another console is considered a reproduction copy. It is a legitimate game, but the Gameboy Advance version of LoZ is a port, or a reproduction copy of the original game onto another system. Anytime something is released, remastered or whatever, it is a reproduction of the original item. This covers all goods and products, not just games. Hell, technically this even counts "greatest hits" versions of games. Sorry, didn't mean to confuse that with the illegitimate or unlicensed repros out there |
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