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June 13, 2014, 12:44:41 PM
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kingjohn3

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Does anyone know anything about the SNES mini's I'm seeing on ebay that are modded for S-Video and RGB output? I think I would rather have this than an emulator or Analougue NT

June 13, 2014, 02:49:05 PM
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June 14, 2014, 01:47:33 AM
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SNES had RGB and S-Video output.  In the redesign, Nintendo for whatever reason decided not to connect the pins on their A/V multi out that power those 2 video formats, but they're still being output by the encoder in the machine.  The "mod" is a fairly trivial mod to reconnect the pins and thus make it possible to use the normal Nintendo cables, nothing complicated like adding RGB to the NES.
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June 14, 2014, 08:02:32 AM
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So if i have an s-video cable for my original release snes, thats possibly as good as it gets, right? Considering the original has better sound output. The svideo cable i have is a Monster and there is no "screen door" look to it.

June 14, 2014, 09:01:38 AM
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So if i have an s-video cable for my original release snes, thats possibly as good as it gets, right? Considering the original has better sound output. The svideo cable i have is a Monster and there is no "screen door" look to it.

In US yes, Here in Europe we can use US SNES's RGB output. ;D

June 14, 2014, 09:02:20 AM
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Or is there RGB -> VGA adapter as most HDTVs still have VGA input?

June 15, 2014, 12:18:03 AM
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So if i have an s-video cable for my original release snes, thats possibly as good as it gets, right? Considering the original has better sound output. The svideo cable i have is a Monster and there is no "screen door" look to it.

If you are unwilling to mod and/or use adapters/upscalers and just want a single plug to go from the SNES to the TV, then yes.  Note: Not all original form factor SNESes will have the separate sound module, but the way you said "original release" I assume you know that.  There's multiple board revisions in the original SNES, and it's fairly hotly contested whether the original-original SNESes with the separate sound module provide "better" video, or whether the 1CHIP boards (the last ones in the original form factor, same internal chips as the Mini) do.

If you want to use adapters/upscalers, then as Arseen said you can always do RGB SCART to VGA adapter (I'm pretty sure they exist, although I know more TVs in the US are starting to ditch VGA -- then again, faaar more TVs have ditched s-video than have ditched VGA) or a powered RGB SCART to Component/YPbPr adapter, or you can go *REALLY* crazy and buy an X-RGB Framemeister (this is a $500 purchase but will give you the absolute best video possible from all of your retro systems).

If you want to mod, you also have the option of modding the SNES for Component/YPbPr (and, for that matter, DAC to bump up the sound quality).
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June 15, 2014, 06:40:26 PM
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Buy an SNES SCart cable and then buy a converter for the best possible picture.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Super-Nintendo-stereo-RGB-SCART-lead-FULLY-SHIELDED-GROUNDED-cable-cord-US-SNES-/201100563863?pt=US_Video_Game_Cables_Adapters&hash=item2ed2871597

Converters:

S-Video: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Switchable-Scart-to-Scart-S-Video-2-RCA-Audio-Adaptor-/300939114784?pt=US_Video_Cables_Adapters&hash=item46115e7920

HDMI: http://www.ebay.com/itm/SCART-HDMI-to-HDMI-720P-1080P-HD-Video-Adapter-Converter-3-5mm-Coaxial-Audio-Out-/111173309970?pt=US_Video_Cables_Adapters&hash=item19e2721612

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS55pmLIEjA

I have one of those SCART to HDMI scalers. The Scart side really **** the bed in terms of quality. The image has several artifacts which really sucks. It does work well as an HDCP stripper, and none of the artifacts are there going from HDMI to HDMI.

If you really wana use RGB, just get a small monitor from a 16 bit computer like the Amiga or ST (I have found that CGA or EGA monitors for PCs tend to be a little wonky with analog RGB), and adapt a scart plug into it. If the monitor is common enough (like the Commodore 1084), there are ready made solutions. Its cheaper than a PVM, and they are small so you can store them away when not in use.
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June 15, 2014, 07:31:06 PM
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I use scart to HDMI and it looks beautiful.  I have no issues.

August 31, 2014, 03:23:06 PM
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i also use rgb-scart to HDMI and it looks wonderful.  I have noticed however on some games that sometimes there is a white outline around my character sprite whenever my character is standing still (Super Castlevania IV) or conversely, when my race craft is moving (F-Zero).  Anyone else have this?