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March 28, 2014, 12:36:05 PM
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My suggestion would probably be the best route, if EA and 32X games were to be included without compromising the original case style. Which would be the whole point of making these in the first place. I cant see anyone going crazy over these because they'll include an EA cart slot. EA games are probably going to be a very small percentage of everyone's Genesis collection, and not exactly the most desired either. What should be the focus in making these cases, is that they are an accurate and quality replacement case to the originals. That's where all the demand is going to be. Everything else should be considered as a possible option if it doesn't compromise anything...

I'd agree.  Plus it's easy enough to find replacement cases for those with all the sports titles nobody wants. As for 32X it would just mean moving the cart tabs out a little. Everything else is the same. Another thing to consider is a case for Sonic & Knuckles. That's slightly more diffcult though. Regardless, the priority should be the normal size Genesis cases. Just let me know if you need any Genesis cases and I can send them your way Shadowfox.

March 28, 2014, 12:48:48 PM
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Personally, I could care less if these had an EA slot anyway. It's not even a small factor as to why I would want these and I imagine it should be the same for anyone. Like others are saying, not much would need to be done to accommodate 32X so that makes sense. Plus with 32X games originally packaged in cardboard boxes, that in itself warrants more value for it to be include over EA games and will by no means compromise the over all feel of the original Gensis cases.

As for Sonic & Knuckles, that's another good reason to buy yourself a cheap cased EA sports game. Cut out a few small pieces of plastic for the cart and she'll fit just fine. I did that for one of my copies until I picked up a CIB copy.
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March 28, 2014, 01:43:18 PM
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I don't think it's a compromise to include EA games as long as all sizes fit security, which I believe is still possible.

My concern is that if you don't include EA or other Sega game sizes, you will have a hard time doing it later because It will be really expensive developing separate cases. Unless you plan to skip them all together.

EA also had different sized manuals. Adding to much stuff will congest the case. This needs to be kept simple and authentic in my opinion.

March 28, 2014, 01:58:20 PM
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I don't think it's a compromise to include EA games as long as all sizes fit security, which I believe is still possible.

My concern is that if you don't include EA or other Sega game sizes, you will have a hard time doing it later because It will be really expensive developing separate cases. Unless you plan to skip them all together.

EA also had different sized manuals. Adding to much stuff will congest the case. This needs to be kept simple and authentic in my opinion.

I agree with segamer on this. To be honest with you, taking EA sports games into account when constructing this case will be a waste of time imho. I mean, cmon, how many of you guys out there want to case up a loose copy of NBA 94'? A complete copy at a local game store is only a couple of bucks and is only slightly more expensive than a loose case. There are, however, other games that are the same dimensions as sports games e.g. Double Dragon and Mutant League Hockey. So I can also understand as to why it might need to be included in the case.

March 28, 2014, 02:18:49 PM
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, how many of you guys out there want to case up a loose copy of NBA 94

Me for one.  Not because I care about the game, but because if I have a game, I will case it.  I have several EA Genesis games that I acquired as part of large game lots I've purchased over the years.  As a collector, if I get a game, I will keep it and case it even if I don't care about it.  It's also important to me that game cases from the same system are the same size (with spine thickness as the only exception). Currently, my EA Genesis games are in UGCs with the rest of my Genesis games.  Therefore, if EA Genesis games do not fit into the new Sega cases, I won’t buy them because my EA Genesis games will still be in UGCs which will not be the same size as the new Sega cases.

If I'm the ONLY person who thinks the cases should hold all types of Sega games including EA games, then by all means go with the majority opinion.  I just hope that people understand that if EA games are left out of the Sega cases, then they will probably never be made.  I can guarantee you that a case specifically for an EA Genesis game will never be profitable and therefore never be made.  Can we all live with that?  Probably.  But it should at least be considered.
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March 28, 2014, 02:28:37 PM
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One can buy a complete copy of NBA 94 for $.50 at a local game store or pretty much any bargin bin. Or you can pay $1.00 for a case and $.50 to print out a cover for a loose cartridge. $.50 vs. $1.50.

March 28, 2014, 02:35:40 PM
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There are actually a few non sports games by EA on the Genesis but like others have said, it's easy to find a common sports game and poach the case.

I'd prefer a UGC like option which comes in a better color than clear and can hold manuals.

I've got 400 UCGs but would switch if there was a better alternative.

I'm also likely going to get rid of some NES games so switching won't be as costly.

The Stone Age cases don't do it for me as they are too big and bulky for my liking.  I do like the way they display the cart and manual though.

March 28, 2014, 02:36:27 PM
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Regular genesis cases can be easily modded to hold an ea game.....

March 28, 2014, 02:37:48 PM
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One can buy a complete copy of NBA 94 for $.50 at a local game store or pretty much any bargin bin. Or you can pay $1.00 for a case and $.50 to print out a cover for a loose cartridge. $.50 vs. $1.50.

Considering that the $.50 NBA 94 case in the bargin bin is usually in pretty bad shape, I would prefer to spend the extra money and have the new case.  

Again, if I'm the only person who feels that way (and it seems that I am), then they should go with the majority opinion and forget the EA option.  No hard feelings here.  I'm just trying to make sure everyone considers all options.  For the record, I'm not that big of a Sega collector, so my opinion will probably be of less importance anyway.  I'm more of a Nintendo guy and I think the NES cases should be top priority anyway.
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March 28, 2014, 03:14:50 PM
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I don't disagree, I have the same sentiment.  Every cart deserves a case, and some of my ea megadrive  games are my favorites.  But, I am also happy to just modify another case.

March 28, 2014, 03:18:27 PM
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Well the alternative would be to include the square EA slot like I pictured. But I feel like these cases would be much more desirable without them.

March 28, 2014, 04:51:07 PM
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But, I am also happy to just modify another case.

That's what I'm trying to avoid.  I will mod a case if I have to, but I would prefer not to.  That's why NES, Game Boy and Game Boy Color cases are top priority for me.  Modifying UGCs for NES and DS cases for GB games was starting to get old. Personally, I don't mind UGCs for Sega games since nearly all fit without modification. Likewise with SNES and N64.

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March 28, 2014, 05:07:49 PM
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But, I am also happy to just modify another case.

That's what I'm trying to avoid.  I will mod a case if I have to, but I would prefer not to.  That's why NES, Game Boy and Game Boy Color cases are top priority for me.  Modifying UGCs for NES and DS cases for GB games was starting to get old. Personally, I don't mind UGCs for Sega games since nearly all fit without modification. Likewise with SNES and N64.


I'm not sure that the argument of buying used sports  game cases equals cases in poor shape. I did it for years. I live in New Mexico. We only have 3 stores that sell vintage games. Each story has hundreds of cheap, complete sports games. It's not like EA crappy sports games are expensive or hard to find. They are cheap and plentiful. 

March 28, 2014, 05:53:24 PM
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And reproducing Sega Genesis cases to fit EA games isn't really the important factor here. The real issue is that it's been "many" years now that people have been looking for a good quality replacement case for standard Genesis games. Do a quick forum search and you'll find that the only answer ever given is to buy up cheap sports and sub out the cases that way. But I never see anyone asking around as to where they can get EA cases. And that's probably because the answer for that is already quite simple. Plus honestly speaking, if someone buys a case of say 50 cases, realistically how many are going to be used for EA games? Maybe 5 or so? Just doesn't feel worth it in the long run.

If these cases are gonna happen, its probably most important to appeal to the main focus of these cases and reproduce a good quality original. That's where the majority of the interest will be. And with these cases having so much more potential in other places than just the cover project, I think that would be the safest route as well. I can see a lot of die hard Sega fans going crazy over something so close to an original reproduction.

Well it's clear me and segamer are very passionate about the possibility of a faithful reproduction case! ;)
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March 28, 2014, 06:11:26 PM
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I second the genesis cases.  If you do make them they have to have the hang tab.