The Rise of a new UGC :)

[TDIRunner]

Small Update:

So the factory never received my first sample I sent to them like 3 weeks ago so Friday I shipped them out another sample.  

I told my girl over there that while we are waiting for the Genesis shell to arrive we will start working on the next case. I personally would like to move on the NES cases (Just due to the fact I hate cutting out the tabs from UGC over and over for clients, I had this one guy from Canada who ordered 500 cases from me and 350 of them were NES!   needless to say it took a while to do.)  So! Does the spine have to be larger to accommodate said NES/ Famicom cart with proper Manual? Also, I've had a few people ask me if the game carts "clip/click" into place (like the GB carts do) Is this something you would like to see on these new cases?

For me, it's important that the new case be able to sit next to a UGC with very few differences.  Because I've invested so much into my NES UGC's, I don't want to replacement them.  Rather, I would like to start using your new cases for all NES games I buy going forward.  In other words, I wouldn't want to use a new case if it didn't match my current UGC's.

That's why I'm buying your new GB cases.  They can sit next to my current DS cases, and you won't be able to tell the difference.  I don't have to replace my DS cases, and I can add your cases for all new GB games going forward.

[Shadowfox]

For me, it's important that the new case be able to sit next to a UGC with very few differences.  Because I've invested so much into my NES UGC's, I don't want to replacement them.  Rather, I would like to start using your new cases for all NES games I buy going forward.  In other words, I wouldn't want to use a new case if it didn't match my current UGC's.

That's why I'm buying your new GB cases.  They can sit next to my current DS cases, and you won't be able to tell the difference.  I don't have to replace my DS cases, and I can add your cases for all new GB games going forward.

^^^I too also agree with this. The outside dimensions should be the same, but the million dollar (well at least few thousand dollar) question is: Is the spine thick enough? If no, how much thicker does it need to be? (I'm trying not to have to alter any of the existing artwork that is already here on TCP)

[palmer6strings]

This actually how I make my cases and I honestly like them a little smaller like this.

[Blumpkin]

I'll echo the sentiments of others, it's very important that the new NES cases look like current UGC. As for the insides, I prefer the cases to hold a cart in dust sleeve. Nothing against a "snap" feature, but cart plus dust sleeve are how I currently stow my NES games in modified UGC.

[Ozzy_98]

Why bother with them if they're just "Like" the UGCs, unless it's a nes-only UGC. 

[e_brugal]

Is a nes only Ugc, that's what we all need   

[KalessinDB]

Snap-In is a decent idea, but impractical imo.  Too many unlicensed carts with slightly different dimensions.  I know I personally have at least 5 different types of NES carts, and I'm not entirely certain I have them all.

Not sure about the thickness though, I have very few manuals at this point, and store them separately from my games (not that my NES games are cased, I've been holding off -- expect an order of 200 NES cases from me when you have them if they're UGC-equivalent quality)

[TDIRunner]

Why bother with them if they're just "Like" the UGCs, unless it's a nes-only UGC. 

Because if a UGC held an NES cart without modification, most of us wouldn't be looking for an alternative.

[Ozzy_98]

That's in part what I was saying.  If someone's going to buy something that's not a UGC, it would be because one of the following reasons:

1) Fits their game without modification or fits their game better\more snug
2) cheaper than a ugc
3) looks better
4) just to have a collection that looks different
5) features a ugc didn't have

Maybe more, but I can only think of these off the top of my head.  For me, bit boxes are great because of 1,3,4 (maybe 5, thinking of manuals still)

[e_brugal]

that's the reason for these new UGC's will be only for Nes and will alson hold manuals. in the outside will be like an UGC but in the inside it will be different

[Shadowfox]

That's in part what I was saying.  If someone's going to buy something that's not a UGC, it would be because one of the following reasons:

1) Fits their game without modification or fits their game better\more snug
2) cheaper than a ugc
3) looks better
4) just to have a collection that looks different
5) features a ugc didn't have

Maybe more, but I can only think of these off the top of my head.  For me, bit boxes are great because of 1,3,4 (maybe 5, thinking of manuals still)

I think the MAIN reason I would be building these would be to use the cases to fill out my own orders via my site, however, I do want these thought through so others will be able to use these cases to suit their needs as well. This NES case will for sure accomplish items 1,3,and 5. (Not exactly sure about item 4, but I'm guessing this one also.)
As for item 2 a UGC costs $0.52-$0.56ea delivered. A NES BitBox is $3.99 + Cheapest Shipping $3.94 so $7.93 delivered. (and I'm sure this price per unit probably could be cut in half if you ordered enough) But even at half ($3.96) it's over 7 times more expensive than a UGC.
These NES cases (UGC sized) would accomplish the same goal as a BitBox (or a current modded UGC!) but I'll be trying to attain a $1.00ea price point. More than likely something along the line of the GB cases pricing.

[StoneAgeGamer]

That's in part what I was saying.  If someone's going to buy something that's not a UGC, it would be because one of the following reasons:

1) Fits their game without modification or fits their game better\more snug
2) cheaper than a ugc
3) looks better
4) just to have a collection that looks different
5) features a ugc didn't have

Maybe more, but I can only think of these off the top of my head.  For me, bit boxes are great because of 1,3,4 (maybe 5, thinking of manuals still)

I think the MAIN reason I would be building these would be to use the cases to fill out my own orders via my site, however, I do want these thought through so others will be able to use these cases to suit their needs as well. This NES case will for sure accomplish items 1,3,and 5. (Not exactly sure about item 4, but I'm guessing this one also.)
As for item 2 a UGC costs $0.52-$0.56ea delivered. A NES BitBox is $3.99 + Cheapest Shipping $3.94 so $7.93 delivered. (and I'm sure this price per unit probably could be cut in half if you ordered enough) But even at half ($3.96) it's over 7 times more expensive than a UGC.
These NES cases (UGC sized) would accomplish the same goal as a BitBox (or a current modded UGC!) but I'll be trying to attain a $1.00ea price point. More than likely something along the line of the GB cases pricing.

I don't want to hijack your thread, but your BitBox pricing is a bit disingenuous. You are taking a single case shipped by itself. At least you should compare 100-pack vs. 100-pack if you want to compare prices. Yes BitBox still quite a bit more, but you are stating it as if 100 BitBoxes would be $400 shipped. That's not even remotely correct.

I just wanted to point that out, I will let my self out. 

[Shadowfox]

That's in part what I was saying.  If someone's going to buy something that's not a UGC, it would be because one of the following reasons:

1) Fits their game without modification or fits their game better\more snug
2) cheaper than a ugc
3) looks better
4) just to have a collection that looks different
5) features a ugc didn't have

Maybe more, but I can only think of these off the top of my head.  For me, bit boxes are great because of 1,3,4 (maybe 5, thinking of manuals still)

I think the MAIN reason I would be building these would be to use the cases to fill out my own orders via my site, however, I do want these thought through so others will be able to use these cases to suit their needs as well. This NES case will for sure accomplish items 1,3,and 5. (Not exactly sure about item 4, but I'm guessing this one also.)
As for item 2 a UGC costs $0.52-$0.56ea delivered. A NES BitBox is $3.99 + Cheapest Shipping $3.94 so $7.93 delivered. (and I'm sure this price per unit probably could be cut in half if you ordered enough) But even at half ($3.96) it's over 7 times more expensive than a UGC.
These NES cases (UGC sized) would accomplish the same goal as a BitBox (or a current modded UGC!) but I'll be trying to attain a $1.00ea price point. More than likely something along the line of the GB cases pricing.

I don't want to hijack your thread, but your BitBox pricing is a bit disingenuous. You are taking a single case shipped by itself. At least you should compare 100-pack vs. 100-pack if you want to compare prices. Yes BitBox still quite a bit more, but you are stating it as if 100 BitBoxes would be $400 shipped. That's not even remotely correct.

I just wanted to point that out, I will let my self out. 

Hey StoneAge! Sorry, I couldn't find the bulk pricing, but I knew it would be aggressive. (Was I close with the half price shipped? $3.96ea?)

I am not dissing your BitBoxs, I think they are very sharp and every well thought out. And for the guys who don't have UGCs already and are willing to pay a few extra pennies, they are a great casing solution! My main goal with my cases is too keep the UGC size, use hard plastic, and keep the price around $1.00-ish. I think at the end of the day my cases will be the middle ground between existing UGC (Which is all we got since forever now) and your BitBoxes (Which are very nice, and sharp looking)

[Kovorkian]

That's in part what I was saying.  If someone's going to buy something that's not a UGC, it would be because one of the following reasons:

1) Fits their game without modification or fits their game better\more snug
2) cheaper than a ugc
3) looks better
4) just to have a collection that looks different
5) features a ugc didn't have

Maybe more, but I can only think of these off the top of my head.  For me, bit boxes are great because of 1,3,4 (maybe 5, thinking of manuals still)

I think the MAIN reason I would be building these would be to use the cases to fill out my own orders via my site, however, I do want these thought through so others will be able to use these cases to suit their needs as well. This NES case will for sure accomplish items 1,3,and 5. (Not exactly sure about item 4, but I'm guessing this one also.)
As for item 2 a UGC costs $0.52-$0.56ea delivered. A NES BitBox is $3.99 + Cheapest Shipping $3.94 so $7.93 delivered. (and I'm sure this price per unit probably could be cut in half if you ordered enough) But even at half ($3.96) it's over 7 times more expensive than a UGC.
These NES cases (UGC sized) would accomplish the same goal as a BitBox (or a current modded UGC!) but I'll be trying to attain a $1.00ea price point. More than likely something along the line of the GB cases pricing.

I don't want to hijack your thread, but your BitBox pricing is a bit disingenuous. You are taking a single case shipped by itself. At least you should compare 100-pack vs. 100-pack if you want to compare prices. Yes BitBox still quite a bit more, but you are stating it as if 100 BitBoxes would be $400 shipped. That's not even remotely correct.

I just wanted to point that out, I will let my self out. 

  playing at Devil's Advocate here:

 Case of 100 (with document pouch) shipped via cheapest method  is around $230 for me. 

[sLpFhaWK]

That's in part what I was saying.  If someone's going to buy something that's not a UGC, it would be because one of the following reasons:

1) Fits their game without modification or fits their game better\more snug
2) cheaper than a ugc
3) looks better
4) just to have a collection that looks different
5) features a ugc didn't have

Maybe more, but I can only think of these off the top of my head.  For me, bit boxes are great because of 1,3,4 (maybe 5, thinking of manuals still)

I think the MAIN reason I would be building these would be to use the cases to fill out my own orders via my site, however, I do want these thought through so others will be able to use these cases to suit their needs as well. This NES case will for sure accomplish items 1,3,and 5. (Not exactly sure about item 4, but I'm guessing this one also.)
As for item 2 a UGC costs $0.52-$0.56ea delivered. A NES BitBox is $3.99 + Cheapest Shipping $3.94 so $7.93 delivered. (and I'm sure this price per unit probably could be cut in half if you ordered enough) But even at half ($3.96) it's over 7 times more expensive than a UGC.
These NES cases (UGC sized) would accomplish the same goal as a BitBox (or a current modded UGC!) but I'll be trying to attain a $1.00ea price point. More than likely something along the line of the GB cases pricing.

I don't want to hijack your thread, but your BitBox pricing is a bit disingenuous. You are taking a single case shipped by itself. At least you should compare 100-pack vs. 100-pack if you want to compare prices. Yes BitBox still quite a bit more, but you are stating it as if 100 BitBoxes would be $400 shipped. That's not even remotely correct.

I just wanted to point that out, I will let my self out. 

  playing at Devil's Advocate here:

 Case of 100 (with document pouch) shipped via cheapest method  is around $230 for me. 

Yeah roughly the same for me, 225.37 making is 2.25 per case.