Author Topic: Gold moldings for NES and SNES cartridges  (Read 1035 times)

March 27, 2014, 07:41:14 AM
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Oh yeah, I totally forgot about that. Will make a note for myself to make both lists when I get to work :)

March 27, 2014, 03:28:39 PM
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This is sounding great! Anyone thinking about making labels for games that may get the colored cart treatment? Or is it possible to do what youre describing while keeping original label intact?

March 27, 2014, 03:43:12 PM
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Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Wiggy was contracted by Capcom to make those DuckTale cartridges and also contracted to keep it a secret.

wiggy didn't make the Ducktales carts. A repro company did

Yup, they certainly were! ;)

Those carts were actually just painted original Nintendo carts BTW.

March 27, 2014, 04:26:45 PM
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It would be nice to actually get some cartridge shells molded in gold.

March 27, 2014, 04:57:27 PM
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It would be nice to actually get some cartridge shells molded in gold.

I wonder how that could be done and what it would cost? Surely making a mold from an existing cart would be fine but finding someone to actually mold it is a different story

March 27, 2014, 05:02:52 PM
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It would be nice to actually get some cartridge shells molded in gold.

I wonder how that could be done and what it would cost? Surely making a mold from an existing cart would be fine but finding someone to actually mold it is a different story

Well, there are tons of videos on youtube for making molds with silicone for resin. I've researched with the intention of remaking TG-16 jewel cases but I still have yet to do so.

March 27, 2014, 08:07:17 PM
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This is sounding great! Anyone thinking about making labels for games that may get the colored cart treatment? Or is it possible to do what youre describing while keeping original label intact?

Painting around labels is crap. People do it all the time and it ALWAYS looks like complete shit. You gotta replace the label if you want it to look decent.


It would be nice to actually get some cartridge shells molded in gold.

Gold plastic isn't really all that swell :( The problem is that there really is no such thing as a good pigment which can be used to color the plastic. Instead, a metallic powder/flake must be mixed in which is terribly obvious when you see the results.  The best way to see what I mean is by comparing an Ocarina of Time cart with Majora's Mask. OoT has a post-mold finish applied and MM is made with gold plastic.


I wonder how that could be done and what it would cost? Surely making a mold from an existing cart would be fine but finding someone to actually mold it is a different story

Retro USB has an NES cart shell tool in China.  You'll prolly have to order a few hundred though in order for it to be worth his time (if he'll even do it for ya).


Well, there are tons of videos on youtube for making molds with silicone for resin. I've researched with the intention of remaking TG-16 jewel cases but I still have yet to do so.

Don't bother. Casting a super thin part like that is very difficult to do without imperfections (I.e. air pockets) plus you'd need a material with a high enough shore hardness to replicate ABS, which won't be cheap.

Casting is HARD, expensive, and time consuming.  
« Last Edit: March 27, 2014, 08:10:57 PM by wiggy »

March 27, 2014, 08:15:07 PM
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I didn't paint em, but I know who did and what they used. I can also tell you that reproducing such a finish isn't at all difficult for most anyone.  There are a few products that I would use to do the job.  It's not exactly what was used for the DT carts, but is actually a better process which will be more durable in the long run.  I'll post a list of what you need along with pics tomorrow when I'm at my computer.


Can you please post too the retrobright recipe that you use?   ;)

Ended up being a lot simpler than I remembered.

1 bottle of 12% hydrogen peroxide (will be called "activator" at beauty supply stores).  The bottle should be about 20oz. or so.
1/4 TSP of Oxy Clean

That's it. If you want, you can use something to thicken it so that you can "paint" it on larger parts which are too big to submerge in the liquid. Then just apply sun or other UV-rich light (I use black light tubes).


Want gold carts?  These products will get the job done and will look pretty much identical to an OoT or Duck Tales cart.

« Last Edit: March 27, 2014, 08:19:00 PM by wiggy »

March 27, 2014, 08:32:56 PM
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I didn't paint em, but I know who did and what they used. I can also tell you that reproducing such a finish isn't at all difficult for most anyone.  There are a few products that I would use to do the job.  It's not exactly what was used for the DT carts, but is actually a better process which will be more durable in the long run.  I'll post a list of what you need along with pics tomorrow when I'm at my computer.


Can you please post too the retrobright recipe that you use?   ;)

Ended up being a lot simpler than I remembered.

1 bottle of 12% hydrogen peroxide (will be called "activator" at beauty supply stores).  The bottle should be about 20oz. or so.
1/4 TSP of Oxy Clean

That's it. If you want, you can use something to thicken it so that you can "paint" it on larger parts which are too big to submerge in the liquid. Then just apply sun or other UV-rich light (I use black light tubes).


Want gold carts?  These products will get the job done and will look pretty much identical to an OoT or Duck Tales cart.



 Sounds simple enough. We have the option to make a lot of whatever color and dip it OR simply use a brush and paint it?

March 27, 2014, 08:41:43 PM
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Wait, what?  You talking about the gold paint?  If so, it's spray paint.  No brushing or dipping.

March 27, 2014, 08:48:25 PM
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Wait, what?  You talking about the gold paint?  If so, it's spray paint.  No brushing or dipping.

Ok got it. SO lemee do the list to make sure....take it apart, spray paint it, dry, put back together, re-label, enjoy. That seem to cover it? Is there a coating to use to keep it from flaking, peeling, etc?

March 27, 2014, 09:05:46 PM
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That's the 3rd can, a clear coat.  And don't forget cleaning it. 

Sanding is the troubles part, you cant sand the carts without losing the finish.  Even a heavy primer removes the texture.

March 27, 2014, 09:16:34 PM
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March 28, 2014, 06:05:35 AM
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No.  A magic eraser or scotch bright pad will scuff the smooth surfaces enough (the textured parts of the cart are, well, textured and don't need any sanding/scuffing).

March 28, 2014, 11:38:58 AM
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Read this for comparisons of which type gold spray paint you would like.
http://www.chrislovesjulia.com/2013/02/answering-which-gold-spray-paint-is-best.html

Personally, I think the Design Master has the best gold paint color (or closest to what Zelda on the NES used).
I also found some of these cans at Home Depot the other day.
http://www.amazon.com/Design-Master-231-Medal-Metallic/dp/B004G8IPDQ




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