They are coming (soon)! The CustomGameCases.com GB/GBC/GBA Game Cases!!!!

[Shadowfox]

This might be too much to ask for, but wouldn't it be wonderful if the cases had sharper edges? Kind of like the UGCs but shorter and thinner;

I think it matches the look and feel of the original cardboard boxes more closely.
[Feel free to ignore]

I will not ignore you! But, I think I'm liking the DS case look

[Shadowfox]

Hmm... ok. So, what would be a price structure you think would be suitable? One price fits all? Base price for 1-5 cases? What should Base price be? What should 1000 cases price per case be?

You all are my "test market" and your input is golden. All of you hunt the web and are savvy with the current game market, I'm the type of guy that would pay $3ea without thinking... but I want these to be epic and everywhere, just like the UGC is.

Be brutal. Be real.   

I think asking what WE would pay is not going to give you a true reaction of what they will sell  for out in the real world.   You need to  push the price down to what will cover your startup costs and production  of first 1 or 2 runs and not be looking at profit until after you've shifted those.  You can then tweak the price up or down without worrying about  how to shift another 100 cases.  If you want them as widespread as UGCs you'll need resellers.  Perhaps riviera in the UK would be a good place to target?  They will be  wanting an even lower price as a reseller - so it all comes down to your production costs really..  Getting in touch with Seymour onion might also be a good idea - if he's prepared to sell your cases on his site  or at least link to you might be a big help.  For both of you.

I imagine recouping the tooling costs will require the sale of MANY thousands of these, and that simply won't happen if they're $2-5 a pop.   Retailers are gonna be hard to convince since there are already very similar products on the market, and I'm sure they are paying .25 or less per case in most instances.  Very few retailers are gonna give two shits about GB/GBC compatibility, especially if wholesale is 3-4 times what their used to for a retail price.

This product is very niche. VERY.  It's not gonna be easy to make money with these. You may want to consider adding functionality to them before moving forward. Possibly Game Gear support and any others that can be shoehorned in there.  There's definitely no need for DS support. That's pretty well covered by the market already.  For these to be successful, I sincerely feel that they need to fill a larger gap in the market, and holding GB games just isn't filling that gap.

It would take the sale of approx 10,000 cases for me to recoup the total cost. (This would also include the cost for 10,000 cases )

I DO agree there is a niche, but I think it's pretty large. I mean on my site I am selling UGCs and I'm always swamped. I'm burning through 1000 cases every 10 days. It's nuts! And it is just growing. I think I can easily sell 10,000 gameboy cases in the next 2-3 years and make all the money back.

I run the site as a hobby, not as a career, so I have the ability to bleed it's profit out to create new cases, I that is my plan

As for distribution, IF I decide to play that game and have distributors in other parts of the world, I would MUCH rather deal with individuals from this forum than any large entity.

[8bitCelebi]

Cool! It's getting harder to find DS cases with the GBA slot and you had to modify to fit the manual. As for GBC, you had to mod the DS case or use a 3DS case. Using 3ds cases for these games are okay but most of the time when I open it, the game always falls out. And 3ds cases are to thin and they don't stand up. This is definitely going to be awesome!

[Arseen]

As for distribution, IF I decide to play that game and have distributors in other parts of the world, I would MUCH rather deal with individuals from this forum than any large entity.

Hmm I could 10000 store cases easily... But could I sell 8000 is different matter... let alone taxman not knocking on my door wanting a cut.

[wiggy]

Hmm... ok. So, what would be a price structure you think would be suitable? One price fits all? Base price for 1-5 cases? What should Base price be? What should 1000 cases price per case be?

You all are my "test market" and your input is golden. All of you hunt the web and are savvy with the current game market, I'm the type of guy that would pay $3ea without thinking... but I want these to be epic and everywhere, just like the UGC is.

Be brutal. Be real.   

I think asking what WE would pay is not going to give you a true reaction of what they will sell  for out in the real world.   You need to  push the price down to what will cover your startup costs and production  of first 1 or 2 runs and not be looking at profit until after you've shifted those.  You can then tweak the price up or down without worrying about  how to shift another 100 cases.  If you want them as widespread as UGCs you'll need resellers.  Perhaps riviera in the UK would be a good place to target?  They will be  wanting an even lower price as a reseller - so it all comes down to your production costs really..  Getting in touch with Seymour onion might also be a good idea - if he's prepared to sell your cases on his site  or at least link to you might be a big help.  For both of you.

I imagine recouping the tooling costs will require the sale of MANY thousands of these, and that simply won't happen if they're $2-5 a pop.   Retailers are gonna be hard to convince since there are already very similar products on the market, and I'm sure they are paying .25 or less per case in most instances.  Very few retailers are gonna give two shits about GB/GBC compatibility, especially if wholesale is 3-4 times what their used to for a retail price.

This product is very niche. VERY.  It's not gonna be easy to make money with these. You may want to consider adding functionality to them before moving forward. Possibly Game Gear support and any others that can be shoehorned in there.  There's definitely no need for DS support. That's pretty well covered by the market already.  For these to be successful, I sincerely feel that they need to fill a larger gap in the market, and holding GB games just isn't filling that gap.

It would take the sale of approx 10,000 cases for me to recoup the total cost. (This would also include the cost for 10,000 cases )

I DO agree there is a niche, but I think it's pretty large. I mean on my site I am selling UGCs and I'm always swamped. I'm burning through 1000 cases every 10 days. It's nuts! And it is just growing. I think I can easily sell 10,000 gameboy cases in the next 2-3 years and make all the money back.

I run the site as a hobby, not as a career, so I have the ability to bleed it's profit out to create new cases, I that is my plan

As for distribution, IF I decide to play that game and have distributors in other parts of the world, I would MUCH rather deal with individuals from this forum than any large entity.

But 10K at what price?

You won't sell 10K of these at $3-5 a pop, ever. Nothing personal, but it's just not gonna happen.

[larryinc64]

You could easily sell 10,000 cases at $1-$2 a case, but at $3-$5, it would be much harder. If you want proof to this, most case reselers on eBay who sell $5 cases with art, have not gone over 2000 transactions.
I think it would be best to take less of a profit on each case, and require more cases sold to recoup losses. You would sell more at a lower price, so it should even out. I would ditch 3DS for these at around $1 for bulk orders, I would need a case of 100. I'm sure you could sell a few 1000 to people on this site, with the conversion easy due to the size being the same as DS cases.

Do you have more images of the cases with different games in them? Does Robopon, Yoshi Topsy-Turvy or Pokemon manuals fit?

[Shadowfox]

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But 10K at what price?

You won't sell 10K of these at $3-5 a pop, ever. Nothing personal, but it's just not gonna happen.
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I would need to sell 10k @ $1.50 each

[Shadowfox]

You could easily sell 10,000 cases at $1-$2 a case, but at $3-$5, it would be much harder. If you want proof to this, most case reselers on eBay who sell $5 cases with art, have not gone over 2000 transactions.
I think it would be best to take less of a profit on each case, and require more cases sold to recoup losses. You would sell more at a lower price, so it should even out. I would ditch 3DS for these at around $1 for bulk orders, I would need a case of 100. I'm sure you could sell a few 1000 to people on this site, with the conversion easy due to the size being the same as DS cases.

Do you have more images of the cases with different games in them? Does Robopon, Yoshi Topsy-Turvy or Pokemon manuals fit?

The issue I have with most of the cases on ebay with artwork is that they don't use DS cases at all, but instead large black glossy CD cases.

As for the Robopon, Yoshi Topsy-Turvy or Pokemon manuals are these larger than normal? If so, can they fit into a standard DS case? (I was not aware that these are larger...if that's the case)

[palmer6strings]

You could easily sell 10,000 cases at $1-$2 a case, but at $3-$5, it would be much harder. If you want proof to this, most case reselers on eBay who sell $5 cases with art, have not gone over 2000 transactions.
I think it would be best to take less of a profit on each case, and require more cases sold to recoup losses. You would sell more at a lower price, so it should even out. I would ditch 3DS for these at around $1 for bulk orders, I would need a case of 100. I'm sure you could sell a few 1000 to people on this site, with the conversion easy due to the size being the same as DS cases.

Do you have more images of the cases with different games in them? Does Robopon, Yoshi Topsy-Turvy or Pokemon manuals fit?

The issue I have with most of the cases on ebay with artwork is that they don't use DS cases at all, but instead large black glossy CD cases.

As for the Robopon, Yoshi Topsy-Turvy or Pokemon manuals are these larger than normal? If so, can they fit into a standard DS case? (I was not aware that these are larger...if that's the case)

No, the original pokemon games manuals do not fit in DS cases without heavily modifying the case. They are longer and taller than the space in the space given for manuals.

[larryinc64]

You could easily sell 10,000 cases at $1-$2 a case, but at $3-$5, it would be much harder. If you want proof to this, most case reselers on eBay who sell $5 cases with art, have not gone over 2000 transactions.
I think it would be best to take less of a profit on each case, and require more cases sold to recoup losses. You would sell more at a lower price, so it should even out. I would ditch 3DS for these at around $1 for bulk orders, I would need a case of 100. I'm sure you could sell a few 1000 to people on this site, with the conversion easy due to the size being the same as DS cases.

Do you have more images of the cases with different games in them? Does Robopon, Yoshi Topsy-Turvy or Pokemon manuals fit?

The issue I have with most of the cases on ebay with artwork is that they don't use DS cases at all, but instead large black glossy CD cases.

As for the Robopon, Yoshi Topsy-Turvy or Pokemon manuals are these larger than normal? If so, can they fit into a standard DS case? (I was not aware that these are larger...if that's the case)

I worded that wrong, The carts of Robopon and Yoshi are bigger, and Pokemon manuals are bigger. Pokemon manuals fit in 3DS cases, so they should fit in his.


I ment case sellers of all types, UGC, DVD, DS ect. I was just showing pricing the cases that high would make it harder, and longer to sell 10,000.
Maybe we should all post how many cases we would buy, to see how much of the cases he needs to sell we can cover.

[Shadowfox]

What about this price breakdown:
1 Case = $2.50ea
5 Case Pack = $11.25 ($2.25ea)
25 Case Pack = $50.00 ($2.00ea)
50 Case Pack = $75.00 ($1.50ea)
100 Case Pack = $125.00 ($1.25ea)
500 Case Pack = $575.00 ($1.15ea)
1000 Case Pack = $1,000.00 ($1.00ea)

Thoughts?

[Shadowfox]

You could easily sell 10,000 cases at $1-$2 a case, but at $3-$5, it would be much harder. If you want proof to this, most case reselers on eBay who sell $5 cases with art, have not gone over 2000 transactions.
I think it would be best to take less of a profit on each case, and require more cases sold to recoup losses. You would sell more at a lower price, so it should even out. I would ditch 3DS for these at around $1 for bulk orders, I would need a case of 100. I'm sure you could sell a few 1000 to people on this site, with the conversion easy due to the size being the same as DS cases.

Do you have more images of the cases with different games in them? Does Robopon, Yoshi Topsy-Turvy or Pokemon manuals fit?

The issue I have with most of the cases on ebay with artwork is that they don't use DS cases at all, but instead large black glossy CD cases.

As for the Robopon, Yoshi Topsy-Turvy or Pokemon manuals are these larger than normal? If so, can they fit into a standard DS case? (I was not aware that these are larger...if that's the case)

I worded that wrong, The carts of Robopon and Yoshi are bigger, and Pokemon manuals are bigger. Pokemon manuals fit in 3DS cases, so they should fit in his.


I ment case sellers of all types, UGC, DVD, DS ect. I was just showing pricing the cases that high would make it harder, and longer to sell 10,000.
Maybe we should all post how many cases we would buy, to see how much of the cases he needs to sell we can cover.

Hmmmmmm... well I know I have a Pokemon Blue Manual somewhere here.... (Needle in the hay stack, I'm sure you all know how that feels LOL)

For the "funny" Cartridges, I actually already have the mould laid out for these but it will not be this mould (but should be the next one after)

[larryinc64]

Actually, looking at the photos, Pokemon manuals would NOT fit. The clips are fatrher back on 3DS cases
Also Robopon would not fit without modification. Maybe leave the top of the square where the GB cart goes to allow for taller carts.

@SF
The pricing there is much better. I would buy it at that price.

[BPip]

Awesome case shadowfox and the best of luck to you, I will be getting into the collection of handhelds very soon and these will be the cases I turn to. I don't see anything wrong with them and $1-$2 a pop is perfect.

[Shadowfox]

Actually, looking at the photos, Pokemon manuals would NOT fit. The clips are fatrher back on 3DS cases
Also Robopon would not fit without modification. Maybe leave the top of the square where the GB cart goes to allow for taller carts.

@SF
The pricing there is much better. I would buy it at that price.

Could you do my a favor an measure how much space we need to get that pokemon manual in there? Is it close? (The clips are in the EXACT spot as a standard DS case. Because if it if close, I will see if I can get them to move the clips closer to the edge.