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KaiserWAVE:
I for one love Rock Band. It's really one of the best games I've ever played. I agree with you on GH though. I bought GH3 because I liked the tracklist but the balancing is way off. I had no problem playing through the game until "One" and "Raining Blood". Couldn't even beat them on hard. You would have to be a freaking octopus to get through the solo or the mosh part of these songs. Also the achievements suck. Playing through hard with a standard 360 controller? Are you kidding me?

Ever since Neversoft took over the GH series they always screw it up. I gave GH World Tour a chance. It's a fun game, has a good tracklist, too. But the same brick wall problem. The game's got no learning curve whatsoever. Instead of getting harder with time it just stays the same and then at the end comes a song and BAM you hit a brick wall because it's way harder than anything you played before.

I was going through the expert bass career. To my surprise it was REALLY easy. Just a few songs that I didn't 5*'ed on my first try. Enter B.Y.O.B. and I'm screwed. As if they turn up the difficulty from 1 to 10 in an instant. Just can't beat the song. Since I'm the achievement whore that I am I thought, ok, I'll go through expert vocals then. Same story here. Whose bright idea was it to let you sing a LIVE version of a Jimmy Hendrix song? He's probably high on acid while he sings it and the pitch is all over the place. Can't even make it further than 30secs into the song until I fail.

I'm looking forward to GH: Metallica (mainly because I hope they bundle it with a wireless X-Plorer) and I pray that they get the balancing right for once that I can play through it on hard at least since medium just isn't any fun anymore.

rant over :)

But as far as GH/Rock Band players being hardcore... I have a few friends who bought either one of these games and they play on medium all the time and have a blast. They don't even want to play higher difficulties. The people online, however, are very protective and nerdy. I can't count how many times someone quit on me because they were losing. Like losing in a ranked match is like losing a limb *sigh*

I think being hardcore or casual (if you want to seperate these two in the first place) depends on how much room you give gaming in your life. Most casual players just play to relax. Or with friends or at parties. They just want to have a good time for an hour or so and then do something else. A hardcore player is likely to ramp up the difficulty, playing for hours at a time, trying to get the most out of a game until it's done. Whether it be going for achievements or a secret or extended ending that you only get on the higher difficulties. Playing the game for a second or third time just to see everything. A casual gamer wouldn't do that. If they play a game that has a story to begin with and not some shovelware or mini game collection they are more than likely done with it after their first playthrough.
Whereas the common Resident Evil fan is likely to play through the game several times. If you got 4th Survivor on Resi 2 you're hardcore, if you got Tofu, payed through Resi1 in under 3 hours or are a 7-day survivor at Dead Rising, you're my hero :D

Timstuff:
One easy way to tell casual from hardcore is how much attention they pay to reviews and news. If someone only buys games if they have a fancy commercial or a friend recommended it, they're obviously a casual. But if someone researches a game thoroughly before dropping $20-60 bones on it, they are more likely to be hardcore. That's certainly not the only qualifier, but it's a possible one. I do find however that casuals tend to be much more forgiving in terms of game quality than hardcores.

sorwah:

--- Quote from: KaiserWAVE on February 07, 2009, 02:02:09 AM ---I for one love Rock Band. It's really one of the best games I've ever played. I agree with you on GH though. I bought GH3 because I liked the tracklist but the balancing is way off. I had no problem playing through the game until "One" and "Raining Blood". Couldn't even beat them on hard. You would have to be a freaking octopus to get through the solo or the mosh part of these songs. Also the achievements suck. Playing through hard with a standard 360 controller? Are you kidding me?

Ever since Neversoft took over the GH series they always screw it up. I gave GH World Tour a chance. It's a fun game, has a good tracklist, too. But the same brick wall problem. The game's got no learning curve whatsoever. Instead of getting harder with time it just stays the same and then at the end comes a song and BAM you hit a brick wall because it's way harder than anything you played before.

I was going through the expert bass career. To my surprise it was REALLY easy. Just a few songs that I didn't 5*'ed on my first try. Enter B.Y.O.B. and I'm screwed. As if they turn up the difficulty from 1 to 10 in an instant. Just can't beat the song. Since I'm the achievement whore that I am I thought, ok, I'll go through expert vocals then. Same story here. Whose bright idea was it to let you sing a LIVE version of a Jimmy Hendrix song? He's probably high on acid while he sings it and the pitch is all over the place. Can't even make it further than 30secs into the song until I fail.

I'm looking forward to GH: Metallica (mainly because I hope they bundle it with a wireless X-Plorer) and I pray that they get the balancing right for once that I can play through it on hard at least since medium just isn't any fun anymore.

rant over :)

But as far as GH/Rock Band players being hardcore... I have a few friends who bought either one of these games and they play on medium all the time and have a blast. They don't even want to play higher difficulties. The people online, however, are very protective and nerdy. I can't count how many times someone quit on me because they were losing. Like losing in a ranked match is like losing a limb *sigh*

I think being hardcore or casual (if you want to seperate these two in the first place) depends on how much room you give gaming in your life. Most casual players just play to relax. Or with friends or at parties. They just want to have a good time for an hour or so and then do something else. A hardcore player is likely to ramp up the difficulty, playing for hours at a time, trying to get the most out of a game until it's done. Whether it be going for achievements or a secret or extended ending that you only get on the higher difficulties. Playing the game for a second or third time just to see everything. A casual gamer wouldn't do that. If they play a game that has a story to begin with and not some shovelware or mini game collection they are more than likely done with it after their first playthrough.
Whereas the common Resident Evil fan is likely to play through the game several times. If you got 4th Survivor on Resi 2 you're hardcore, if you got Tofu, payed through Resi1 in under 3 hours or are a 7-day survivor at Dead Rising, you're my hero :D

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The main reason I don't like guitar hero (after Neversoft become dev) is because they don't even put the song notes right. Half of Harmonix's staff has been or is in a band. The expert difficulty has a 1:1 ratio of notes to frets. In other words, every time you have to strum a fret it's at the same time a note would play in the song. In Neversoft's Guitar Hero they just add more frets to areas where there aren't even notes to make it harder.

Mick Dundee:
I consider myself a Collector and moderate player.

I play my games every weekday on breaks at work (DS or PSP)
Then come home to play 360 or watch TV....

My little brother I consider to be in the "Hardcore" Catagory.

He plays his games for 9/10ths of his waking hours.

He gets 1000 / 1000 Achievements on all almost the games he plays.

If you give him a game, he will beat it...probably because of no cash to buy more.

He played through Twilight Princess with 3 hearts and Didn't die once.

He used Action Replay to change ALL the enemies he could to the Big Armored Guys that you
need to "break" away the armor of.

People that will take a game and get all 1000 achievement points, almost no matter what the
game, I think are hardcore.

oh, and If you guys want a piece of crap Band game... try Rock Revolution. I received and Returned
this one in the same day from Gamefly

Sadly, it DID have a good music list. (Newer rock)

the7k:
Don't get me wrong, Kaizer, Rock Band is a good game, it's just that I have played so much of it. It got to a point where every week end, either friends would come to my place to play it or I'd go over to a friend's place and then they'd wanna play it.

About a month ago I went over to a friends place and they wanted to play Rock Band 2 for old times sake. Even with the new tracks they downloaded and everything, I just pulled out my DS and played some Neo Geo roms until they finished. I recognize it's a good game (much better than the 'strawberry milk' Guitar Hero has become), I'm just burnt out.

Hardcore gamer is hard to define, mainly because there are so many variations. I'd say Timstuff is on to something, hardcore gamers put more thought into gaming than anyone else does. Reading reviews has something to do with that, but so does reading gaming news, tutorials on making your gaming experience better and finding out the best places to hide in your FPS of choice.

I just suffered a virus a couple of days ago. As soon as I put XP back on (just so I could play games; I use Ubuntu for everything else), the first few sites I bookmarked were this one, Kotaku and Racketboy. I'd say that alone pretty much cements my hardcore-gamer-ness.

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