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the7k:

--- Quote from: AppleQueso on February 05, 2009, 08:02:08 AM ---
--- Quote from: sorwah on February 04, 2009, 11:33:01 PM ---Everything you just said I wouldn't call a hardcore gamer. I would call them an enthusiast - which is what I believe I am.

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Well all things considered, the term "Hardcore Gamer" is pretty synonymous with "Enthusiast Gamer" if you ask me. However I suppose that if you really wanted to separate them you could say that "Hardcore Gamers" tend to be elitist and look down on "Casuals".

I would consider myself an enthusiast then if we are to make such a distinction, as generally, I don't see any reason to look down on people who simply don't have the same amount of passion that I do for my hobby.

However, insult the classics and you're likely to get my blood boiling :)

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Honestly, Casual Gamers look down on Hardcore Gamers too. Or at the very least, dislike them.

For example, if everyone is playing Guitar Hero on Easy, then you get a turn and play on Hard, you'll probably be called a showoff by all but your family/close-friends. Sure, some people do that to show off, but sometimes I just wanna have fun. Once you've played GH on Hard, going to Easy is like... switching to a tricycle after being on a dirt bike.

The reason a lot of hardcore gamers consider casual games inferior is because, in many cases, they are. It's a problem when the hardcore can't recognize when a casual game is brilliant. Boom Blox is as casual as they come, but it's still a good game. Casual gaming has become so mediocre and copy-paste due to the Wii's success that all casual games are being lumped in with Carnival Games: Mini Golf and Wacky Races. When the next Tetris does hit, no one is going to know it. The hardcore will dismiss it immediately because it's "just another casual game", while casual gamers will be confused by the sea of options that they won't see the best of the best. Even reviewers, at this point, can't cover the massive flood of casual games (Can't remember the article, but I remember reading recently that magazines have to "pick and choose" what to cover each month, just because there are too many things to cover), making it even more likely that gems will be forever lost.

As far as I'm concerned, a hardcore gamer doesn't have to be an elitist. Elitism is an entirely different area. I'm sure there are tons of casual gamers that look at hardcore gamers, playing their silly technical fighters, ancient space ship games and menu-based adventure books on TV and thinking "What a bunch of nerds."

sorwah:
I remember playing Rock Band 2. I had my skills up to Medium. I kept auto-joining into this one guitarist's band. After 5 minutes of idling, we went into the stage/song select. He chose Expert, I chose medium. He immediately backs out to the lobby and boots me.

Pfft.

juan0tron:
eh, I'm not much for naming myself, but I guess I could fit in with the hardcore crowd. I love collecting games, completing them, and paying them over and over if I think they deserve it :P
Time investment doesn't matter much, I'm at school about 10 hours a day, so I don't have much time, but it doesn't stop me from being hardcore. Check out my signature if you want proof of the amount of games I play.

For Rock Band/Guitar Hero, I find it kind of hard to play anything lower than expert because I'm so used to playing the actual notes for a song, especially with drums. (unless someone pulls something like "visions" out, then I'll bump down to hard again :P)

Doom:
I won't purchase a GH/RB game out of principle. All that money for something that doesn't cost near that much to manufacture I would think. Thus, I can do okay at best (maybe normal) only because of my general musical experience.

However, anywhere there is DDR, (I pronounce it "du-durrr" :P) I make an ass of myself. Anyone playing DDR well and most people playing GH/RB well seem to always look like assholes, myself included. As annoying as it is to me when I lose in CoD or Halo or an equally shitty FPS, games like that where all of the attention is usually focused on one or a few people make people seem like dicks very easily.

the7k:
Yeah, all the GH/RB analogies I use is simply because it is such an over-exposed series. Guitar Hero stopped being fun after GHII, and Rock Band only brought it back to the fun times for a while before I got tired of pulling the set out for yet another fret-fest.

At this point, I'd just much rather play Audio Surf. Maybe that new Amplitude their working on for PSN'll be worth checking out too, but the whole peripheral-based music genre is kinda being beat with a dead horse.

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