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Cover Quality Discussion
irvgotti452:
--- Quote from: Akumu on July 02, 2013, 05:22:04 PM ---The selection isn't so much skewed just that it is very detail oriented and strict in terms of what is acceptable to go into the database. I been here since the start and while I made many covers, there are still some that doesn't make it into the database either cause I skewed over a few details that should have been cleaned up or whatever.
You mention people like mel who are very resourceful and active but one of the concerns I see with this page and hopefully can be handled a bit more after the redesign goes live is that there is too much of a focus now on these personal or completely custom layout projects where raws aren't really put up for share but just splattered onto some sort of one color custom template or deviantart pictures copy and pasted without any real work done to clean it up and preserve, which is what this place is about to me at least. Shit there's been covers that have taken me weeks to get cleaned proper. There's nothing wrong with custom covers, but they shouldn't be the focus of the site and should probably be at a spot on the forums which doesn't get bumped to the top to avoid raws and traffic exclusively going into the personal projects. Custom boxes are more suited for vgboxart.com and such
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Well said.
segamer:
--- Quote from: Akumu on July 02, 2013, 05:22:04 PM ---The selection isn't so much skewed just that it is very detail oriented and strict in terms of what is acceptable to go into the database. I been here since the start and while I made many covers, there are still some that doesn't make it into the database either cause I skewed over a few details that should have been cleaned up or whatever.
You mention people like mel who are very resourceful and active but one of the concerns I see with this page and hopefully can be handled a bit more after the redesign goes live is that there is too much of a focus now on these personal or completely custom layout projects where raws aren't really put up for share but just splattered onto some sort of one color custom template or deviantart pictures copy and pasted without any real work done to clean it up and preserve, which is what this place is about to me at least. Shit there's been covers that have taken me weeks to get cleaned proper. There's nothing wrong with custom covers, but they shouldn't be the focus of the site and should probably be at a spot on the forums which doesn't get bumped to the top to avoid raws and traffic exclusively going into the personal projects. Custom boxes are more suited for vgboxart.com and such
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When I say that the site has skewed standards, what I'm saying is that BadChad has a standard, Shenske has a standard, Taketaketok has a standard, etc... and they are all different standards and they are very high. Obviously the point to Bonk is that the standard for one cover administrator doesn't match that of another. It's skewed. As far as custom cover go, the site has always had them. Why is taboo now? I agree that Mel hasn't always produced perfect work but there's a lot of work that's darn good! Mel made an SNES art of Fighting cover that was darn good and should have been used by the site; in addition to a lot of gameboy covers.
Let me say this about site standards. The site needs to be scrubbed of many, many bad covers. With that said, if we completely scrubbed the site of covers that don't meet site standards, there wouldn't be many covers left.
larryinc64:
Touching on a different point, the quality standards, The entire archive on the left needs to be re-sorted. I was going through all the GB covers on the site, in a project to convert them all to 3DS, and I found that most of the covers are bad, the ones labeled DONE! ore ones I redid, many of them, like G&WG 2 and SML have bad covers on the site.
Gameboy----------------------------------------
Adams Family, The - Bad Scans / No NTSC
Adventure Island II: Aliens in Paradise - Bad Scans
Alleyway - Bad Scans (I Have Better Scans)
Amazing Spider-Man, The - Bad Scans / No NTSC
Baseball - Bad Scans
Bases Loaded - Bad Scans
Bomberman GB - Bad Scans
Boomer's Adventure in Asmik World - Bad Scans
Bugs Bunny Crazy Castle 2, The - Good Scans (Million Seller)
Burger Time - Bad Scans
Castlevania 2: Belmont's Revenge - Bad Scans
Castlevania Adventure, The - Done!
Castlevania Legends - Done!
David Crane's A Boy and his Blob in... The Rescue of Princess Blobette - No Retail
Donkey Kong - Done!
Donkey Kong Land - Done!
Donkey Kong Land 2 - Done!
Donkey Kong Land 3 - Done!
Double Dragon - Bad Scans
Dr. Mario - Done!
Duck Tales -Acceptable Scans
Duck Tales 2 - Done-ish!
F1 Race - No Retail
Faceball 2000 - Good Scans
Final Fantasy Adventure - Bad Scans
Final Fantasy Legend -Acceptable Scans
Final Fantasy Legend 2 - Good Scans
Final Fantasy Legend 3 -Acceptable Scans
Game and Watch Gallery Done!
Gameboy Camera - Done!
Gargoyle's Quest - Meh Scans / No NTSC (I Have Better Scans)
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - Bad Scans
James Bond 007 - - Good Scans (Million Seller)
Kid Icarus - Bad Scans
Kid Niki - No NTSC
Killer Instinct - Ok Scans
Kirby's Block Ball - OK Scans / No NTSC
Kirby's Dreamland - Done!
Kirby's Dreamland 2 - Done!
Kirby's Pinball Land
Kirby's Star Stacker
Yoshi - No NTSC
Zoop - Bad Scans
On the move to the new site, we should go through every cover we have to see what covers we should dump, I'm willing to help with GB, GBC and GBA ;)
I think we should have a new PLACEHOLDER cover rank for crap covers with no good scans available, crap is better than nothing.
I think we should shift focus back to site design, and worry about this when the transfer takes place.
All forum posts will be transfered over to the new site layout, right?
Azarkhel:
I agree about the custom covers. I much prefer them for my own collection but they're not what this site should primarily be about.
That said, I agree with a lot of Segamers other points. The way covers are added is definitely flawed, unfortunately I don't really see another way around it at this point. Yes it's not ideal, but it's what we have so it has to be accepted until a viable solution can be found.
At the least, I kind of feel like the current templates should be reviewed and updated. That's an easy fix as there are quite a few older templates with low res or dirty elements.
Akumu:
While they have slightly different standards, it's not that skewed. Getting Tik to accept a cover is not easy, but it shouldn't be, and you at least know that once he approves a cover it's been thoroughly done. The common thread between all the people approving is that they look at the effort that has gone into the cover and the picture quality. There's a lot of covers from back in the day that needs to be cleaned up again per today's standards though, I do agree with that, but in terms of the selection process its a fairly well oiled machine and the people know what to look for.
Customs aren't taboo, but there are differences to them and they aren't beneficial for this particular site, so it's slightly against the purpose. In itself I enjoy good custom work and take a look at what I see just to catch a glimpse. However there's an abundance of custom work right now and that leads to various things, one that people don't share raws for people to properly handle and restore the artwork and rather just opt for a 2 minute copy paste job. While some work from various people can be good, looking over it right now that seems to be depending on the state of the original scan's quality and not that of the artist's work on it. When there are sites that specifically focus on custom boxes, it's better to share it there for proper feedback than to clutter up this place and divert the attention away from the official artwork threads.
Nothing personal against the people who do customs at all, just that it shouldn't be in the forefront of TheCoverProject so that the raw scans get properly handled rather than hacked together into customs.