Xbox One

[FritzWhite]

The voice commands and hand waving are neat and I'm sure the new games will look good, but if I can't play the xbox360 and xboxlivearcade games I've already paid for then forget it. The fact that 360s have such a short lifespan irritates me when I think that someday I won't be able to play my xbox360 library of over 40 games. What the hell am I going to do with my red ringed 360 and all my games in 2020? I want to be able to play my old games until I'm dead.

[Dravenae]

Short life span? I think not. It's been over 7 years since it was released, that's well over the average console lifespan.

Back on topic. Yes, fuck the Xbox, fuck Microsoft. I'm not going to pay twice for used games. Halo and Gears of War are not enough to justify buying a new console worth 500-700 euro.

[FritzWhite]

Short life span? I think not. It's been over 7 years since it was released, that's well over the average console lifespan.

Back on topic. Yes, fuck the Xbox, fuck Microsoft. I'm not going to pay twice for used games. Halo and Gears of War are not enough to justify buying a new console worth 500-700 euro.

By lifespan I mean how long the xbox360 lasts before it red rings and dies.

[Dravenae]

Fair enough. I bought my Xbox back in 2007, it's still running fine. Probably could do with a clean, but its in fine working order.

[FritzWhite]

I bought at launch and I've had a couple die on me. The SNES and PS2 are still going strong though.

[Dravenae]

I have had 3 PS2's in my lifetime, and 2 PS3's, though in fairness I got the second for free!

[palmer6strings]

Yep still many great SNES and NES RPGs to go thru.

And still many ones waiting translation.

 

+1!!!

I need to ask you something anyway! PM will be sent.

[Arseen]

Yep still many great SNES and NES RPGs to go thru.

And still many ones waiting translation.

 

+1!!!

I need to ask you something anyway! PM will be sent.

Answered.

[wiggy]

Ok, I'm officially confused.

I will be required to install games to the hard drive and thus marry the games to my machine?  The only way the "disc" could know that it was married is by having the machine check against a database via the web.  So it sounds to me like you MUST have a live account in order to play games at all and that it very likely needs to be connected at least a portion of the time to check for such things

Is there no option to stick game in, turn on machine, play game at all anyomore? 


I'm going to order my Ouya now...

[Superchop]

So it sounds to me like you MUST have a live account in order to play games at all and that it very likely needs to be connected at least a portion of the time to check for such things

They might keep things similar to how it is now with gold and silver memberships...just as long as even being silver you have it connected to the net.  

Also...MS is giving out a $10 voucher on their online store.  If you go to microsoft.com go to "shop" and click on Xbox One you should get a screen where it asks to register your email address to receive a notification to preorder the console.  If you register your email they'll send a voucher code to that email to be used in the store.

I got my code already but due to the huge amount of traffic a lot of people are saying that orders are getting cancelled or aren't going through...so i'm giving it a day or 2 before I try it myself

--edit--

found this also

http://majornelson.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-and-used-games/

keywords though... " there is no fee to play that game while you are signed in to your profile."  So there might be issues playing "your" game on someone elses profile

As for the always online, It doesn't really concern me since I have both my xbox and ps3 hardwired to the net so i'm "always connected" already but I did not like the whole "need to sign in an hr a day" thing...if I'm already connected at all times to allow the xbox to do everything while the system is "off" then I just don't understand the need to turn it on and sign on every day.  But I guess this is their way of "forcing" the multimedia aspect of the system and having you connect whatever tv service you have directly to the xbox instead of directly to the tv.

[Vt102]

Wired got to look at the Xbox one before the conference.

Games install to the HDD meaning that games are restricted to Xbox Live accounts. This means you can't used used games without paying a "fee" that pops up when you don't own the game and try to install it.

So if there is a fee for used games, what will this do to the game renting market?

Unlike DVDs and Blu-Ray movies that make a "rent" version, currently companies that rent game are in fact renting a retail disc. So if MS is going to charge a "fee" it is likely that this will be the case with rental games too. This means that people that rent a game will have to pay twice, once to the renter and again to MS.

I know that most of us here are collectors and the chances of renting a video game are low, but that is not the case with the general population, like many families out there.

Also this will kill the age old tradition of kids inviting friends over to play video games and having the friend bring some of their games.

BTW.... unrelated to my comment.... Sony stock jumped 10% the moment the MS press conference ended... WHAT DOSE THAT TELL YOU?

[FritzWhite]

Used games and always online explained by this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSwz9dI3oSk

[Heilman11085]

I personally hate buying anything used. Gamestop charges $55 for a $60 game, I'll pay the extra $5. Plus I almost always know what I want before they come out so most games I will get the day they release. No one mentions anything about the NFL, well for Americans this could be huge considering for the past decade satellite company DirecTV has had a monopoly on the NFL and charges a ridiculous amount to watch games and a 2 year contract. Blu-ray is amazing and now I no longer need an Xbox and a 3D blu-ray player. I think you guys are just old guys and can't embrace change! Did you not see the comparison video of detail from MW3 and COD Ghost? Huge I mean HUGE difference! I personally will get it on launch!

[Dravenae]

Ok, I'm officially confused.

I will be required to install games to the hard drive and thus marry the games to my machine?  The only way the "disc" could know that it was married is by having the machine check against a database via the web.  So it sounds to me like you MUST have a live account in order to play games at all and that it very likely needs to be connected at least a portion of the time to check for such things

Is there no option to stick game in, turn on machine, play game at all anyomore? 


I'm going to order my Ouya now...

Nope not any more dear friend. Microsoft wants to force its collective dick down your throat and then thank them for doing so. Plus you must pay a fee to play used games, so after a forced blow job, you must turn around, bend over, and let their drinking buddies (specifically Bungie and Epic) take their turn on you. Man if you think that's bad, wait until Apple stick their ugly fucking nose into the gaming market.

[Dravenae]

Used games and always online explained by this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSwz9dI3oSk

I fucking love Alpha!