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kaysow:
well, this was expected. would've been fun to see them try to actual keep at it, but everyone agreed it was doomed from the start.

still seems sketchy to me. and their "no" towards drm is really forced and insincere so i don't trust them not to bring it back later now that they have all the systems in place. but for what it's worth, the kinect is now the only thing preventing me from picking one of these up somewhere along the line, eventually. and if they're gonna keep caving then removing that would knock the price down in the process...
Nacho3:

--- Quote from: Arseen on June 19, 2013, 05:20:37 PM ---
--- Quote ---An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games – After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360.
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Even though it says: An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games, this: After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox Onemight mean that games are still console locked with manditory one-time online check when installing games, which in future might lead to the shit that M$ now tried, as they reserve the right to change unilaterally change the contract.

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That it is when you set up your Xbox, not the first time you play each game. It is because of a day one patch that needs to take the 24 hour check off of the system.
Blueprint:

--- Quote from: Nacho3 on June 19, 2013, 11:38:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: Arseen on June 19, 2013, 05:20:37 PM ---
--- Quote ---An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games – After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360.
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Even though it says: An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games, this: After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox Onemight mean that games are still console locked with manditory one-time online check when installing games, which in future might lead to the shit that M$ now tried, as they reserve the right to change unilaterally change the contract.

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That it is when you set up your Xbox, not the first time you play each game. It is because of a day one patch that needs to take the 24 hour check off of the system.

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Hopefully is not a 2-3 hour long update like they had with the Wii U lol
amarthar:

--- Quote from: Blueprint on June 20, 2013, 12:49:10 AM ---Hopefully is not a 2-3 hour long update like they had with the Wii U lol

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Of course not. It's gonna be 5-6 hours ;D
FFXIK:

--- Quote from: TSOLfan on June 19, 2013, 04:20:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: wiggy on June 19, 2013, 04:07:20 PM ---WOW!  :o

Good for them.

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I'm probably in the minority here, but I'm not a fan of the switch, because of this:


--- Quote ---These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray.
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So, my game sharing example in my post above (being able to define a friends/family group of 10 and having an online pool of games to pull from), that my friends and I were excited about and looking forward to now goes away.  Downloadable copies can no longer be shared, and disc based games (where in the DRM model, they were simply a means to getting the installation files and for all intensive purposes were downloadable copies), now require the disc, just like the 360 and PS3 (and PS4 I assume).  Granted, we could technically still share games by mailing a disc it seems, though, again, I was willing to trade the DRM for the convenience, especially since we are scattered across the country.  I mean, if my friend that's a 27 hour drive away just wanted to play some Crimson Dragon for a few hours, he could, and wouldn't have to wait for me to mail him my disc, and for him to mail it back when he was done borrowing it, and for me, the same, if I wanted to play some Forza.

Lame.

Again, I can understand why some people might be excited about this (those that flip their games, and don't have a reliable Internet connection), though, for my circle of friends, where we typically hold on to our games, and we all have broadband connections, the new DRM model offered up some cool game sharing possibilities (open access to your digital game library to your circle of friends) that are now lost.

And again, lame.

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I hold onto my games as well.  I just have more than what was going to be allowed to "lend" games to.  I for one am glad the only 10 thing is dead, or dying rather.
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