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Blumpkin:

What irks me is the way they made this announcement. They make it sound as if they're concerned for gamers. Bullshit, the only concern they had was with their bottom line. They looked at the disappointing number of presales and started to freak. What happened to "this is a marathon, not a sprint".

The remarks made about the 360 being the right console for deployed military members also pissed me off (I'm active duty myself). As far as I'm concerned they hurt the brand big time.

sheep2001:

Good news for me.  Actually giving me itchy fingers to preorder.

Just can't help thinking that if they can Backtrack on some of these big issues so quickly, what else might change before, or after launch.  it's not just the firmware change, but it's more the discussions they must have had with preferred resellers of used games, and contract negotiations that they have dropped so readily.  I don't care about the game sharing stuff they've dropped.  it is nice to see they actually listened to public opinion,  whether that's because of low preorders or not, they listened.

I think I might get in trouble with the other half if I order another console this month, especially as ive already said the next iPad is being bought on launch, ordered an ouya, and preordered a ps4.  ;D

wiggy:


--- Quote from: TSOLfan on June 19, 2013, 04:20:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: wiggy on June 19, 2013, 04:07:20 PM ---WOW!  :o

Good for them.

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I'm probably in the minority here, but I'm not a fan of the switch, because of this:


--- Quote ---These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray.
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So, my game sharing example in my post above (being able to define a friends/family group of 10 and having an online pool of games to pull from), that my friends and I were excited about and looking forward to now goes away.  Downloadable copies can no longer be shared, and disc based games (where in the DRM model, they were simply a means to getting the installation files and for all intensive purposes were downloadable copies), now require the disc, just like the 360 and PS3 (and PS4 I assume).  Granted, we could technically still share games by mailing a disc it seems, though, again, I was willing to trade the DRM for the convenience, especially since we are scattered across the country.  I mean, if my friend that's a 27 hour drive away just wanted to play some Crimson Dragon for a few hours, he could, and wouldn't have to wait for me to mail him my disc, and for him to mail it back when he was done borrowing it, and for me, the same, if I wanted to play some Forza.

Lame.

Again, I can understand why some people might be excited about this (those that flip their games, and don't have a reliable Internet connection), though, for my circle of friends, where we typically hold on to our games, and we all have broadband connections, the new DRM model offered up some cool game sharing possibilities (open access to your digital game library to your circle of friends) that are now lost.

And again, lame.

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Or that buy games used, or like to take them to a friend's house without having to go through all the bullshit that is installing them on their machine, or don't want draconian DRM forcing them to install every fucking game onto a hard drive, or don't want to be forced to keep their machines online so that Microsoft can keep tabs on you, or...

I couldn't care less about "sharing" downloaded games.  It wasn't an option before, and it doesn't offend me that it still isn't.  I'd rather NOT lose existing features/options than gain new ones.

Arseen:


--- Quote ---An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games – After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360.
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Even though it says: An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games, this: After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox Onemight mean that games are still console locked with manditory one-time online check when installing games, which in future might lead to the shit that M$ now tried, as they reserve the right to change unilaterally change the contract.

wiggy:

Well, if you don't ever take it online, then they can't actually change anything on your machine.

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