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TSOLfan:
--- Quote from: wiggy on June 14, 2013, 10:45:45 AM ---This is such a massive deterrent for me.
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Again, I can see how it is for some people. The way I see it, that's Microsoft's decision, and they have to convince their target audience (be it gamers or not) that it's worth buying into, from either a software or service standpoint. They did it for me with a Killer Instinct sequel.
I'd say it's similar, but not necessarily congruent, with something like Ultima Online (is that even around anymore?) or World of Warcraft. They have to convince their target audience that's there's enough value there while they have access to it that if it was to ever go away, they won't pull out the pitchforks and torches.
I'll admit, the idea of everything digital and discs just a distribution method sounds cool, in that if the world was filled of XOs, I could go anywhere, login, and there's all of my stuff (games and saves). Though, I primarily game from home (but my 3DS does go with me on business trips), so that's not a huge factor for me.
akumaizer:
--- Quote from: TSOLfan on June 14, 2013, 11:20:03 AM ---I'd say it's similar, but not necessarily congruent, with something like Ultima Online (is that even around anymore?)
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Though not really related to the topic, I'll answer this. It is. Most of the same production servers still exist but you would hardly recognize the game from its heyday. Many old time UO players like myself still play on free servers that have been emulated and customized to have certain features or replicate certain eras. A few have been around for a while and the one I play on has been going for over 5 years now. Still... it is always understood that it could end at any time.
kaysow:
last paragraph there: that's steam today. i log in and play my games at different places all the time. difference is steam runs on an wide open platform - the pc, and there are multiple alternatives when you're shopping for something. there are so many ways of fucking over the customer on closed hardware with that kind of monopoly - planned obsolesence, scrapped backwards compatibility etc. for instance - http://www.gamespot.com/news/xbla-games-wont-carry-over-to-xbox-one-6408732
nyway yeah, it's fun when you grow up and finally learn that these eulas, video & dvd disclaimers, and more recently: no-sue clauses actually don't amount to shit. you can do most of those things, lend, copy etc. and most certainly sue and none of it holds up. did a great job indoctrinating a lot of consumers tho, people online will fight you over the difference between ownership and licenses.
i guess reason we hear about that sketchy clause for xbone is because everyone IS singling them out right now. i'm loving it, but a lot of journos/youtubers are just trying to score some easy points.
TSOLfan:
--- Quote from: akumaizer on June 14, 2013, 11:29:43 AM ---Many old time UO players like myself still play on free servers that have been emulated and customized to have certain features or replicate certain eras.
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That's awesome, I had no idea this was still around. I only dabbled in it when it first launched, after coming off of AOL's Neverwinter Nights, which to me was epic, having grown up on the AD&D SSI Goldbox games on my Commodore 64.
akumaizer:
How dare they?!? That's it, no Xbone or PS4 for me. :)
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