Author Topic: Stone Age Gamer's NES BitBoxes  (Read 5461 times)

June 06, 2013, 08:40:00 PM
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I think I might have a simple solution that would eliminate the extra cost of the strap but still give you a spot in which to insert the manual.  When I'm back at my desk I'll mock up something. It'll be easier than me trying to explain it.

June 06, 2013, 08:43:41 PM
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NES manuals do indeed fit behind cart it seems. I tried with Zelda manual, which I believe I one of the thickest.

Well I have to sell this batch first, but I will talk to manufacturer. Without documentation strap and higher quantity I may be able to get them down to closer to $1.50 - $1.75/ea. for 100-pack (maybe lower who knows). It may be possible to offer a plastic pocket that can be stuck inside inside cover for those who want that option.

What I may be able to do, I will have to look into final costs, but to help move this first batch out I may be able to throw in free cover art insert printing. So basically if you bought 100 pack you could also select 100 games inserts you wanted printed and I would print them off for you. I have a very nice color laser printer and a commercial stack paper cutter so they would all be cut to size. Speaking of which, is there anyways to actually download all the cover art for a specific system at once. Rather than 1 at a time?

Thanks everyone for their critiques and suggestions. I somewhat regret not coming to this forum first before producing them to get your insight. Luckily I didn't order a ridiculous amount to start.

There is no bulk downloading, I believe it creates undue stress on the server...and the server does go down....a lot.

Also we don't have EVERY NES cover, so I do think that free cover prints would be kind of fool hearty unless you use what I call "place holder covers" just simple covers that you write the title in sharpie. You would use these in place of the regular cover art, naturally. I have a small set of these "Place holder covers" you would be free to use should you go that route.

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June 07, 2013, 12:06:39 PM
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Here's what I'm thinking.

Dotted line is dye cut, manual slides between the front and inner layers.  Make sense?  No extra parts ;)

« Last Edit: June 07, 2013, 12:09:01 PM by wiggy »

June 07, 2013, 01:04:50 PM
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Well I have to sell this batch first, but I will talk to manufacturer. Without documentation strap and higher quantity I may be able to get them down to closer to $1.50 - $1.75/ea. for 100-pack (maybe lower who knows). It may be possible to offer a plastic pocket that can be stuck inside inside cover for those who want that option.

What I may be able to do, I will have to look into final costs, but to help move this first batch out I may be able to throw in free cover art insert printing. So basically if you bought 100 pack you could also select 100 games inserts you wanted printed and I would print them off for you. I have a very nice color laser printer and a commercial stack paper cutter so they would all be cut to size.

Hmm ... you are getting my attention now.  
The corners of the box still bug me though. I understand that it kind of has that ripple effect (where it comes to a point) from the material used (its not hard plastic) but i think that would drive me nuts.


I'm also not a huge fan of the excess black space of plastic above where the cover insert sits. Is there any way to trim that down closer to the edge of the outer sleeve?
« Last Edit: June 07, 2013, 01:06:26 PM by shenske »




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June 07, 2013, 01:22:42 PM
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Thank you shenske.
With one picture you convinced me against these cases.

So I quess Onion cases or continuing with doublewide DVD cases is the path I follow.

June 07, 2013, 01:25:54 PM
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Well, to be fair, they are still in a prototype form.  Those things could be tweaked I'm guessing.

June 07, 2013, 01:39:43 PM
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Well, to be fair, they are still in a prototype form.  Those things could be tweaked I'm guessing.

I doubt the crimping can be removed, but hopefully I'm wrong. :-\

June 07, 2013, 01:46:13 PM
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Oh, it can.  It just requires a little reworking of the shape and support walls on the inside.

June 07, 2013, 01:58:04 PM
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Well I have to sell this batch first, but I will talk to manufacturer. Without documentation strap and higher quantity I may be able to get them down to closer to $1.50 - $1.75/ea. for 100-pack (maybe lower who knows). It may be possible to offer a plastic pocket that can be stuck inside inside cover for those who want that option.

What I may be able to do, I will have to look into final costs, but to help move this first batch out I may be able to throw in free cover art insert printing. So basically if you bought 100 pack you could also select 100 games inserts you wanted printed and I would print them off for you. I have a very nice color laser printer and a commercial stack paper cutter so they would all be cut to size.

Hmm ... you are getting my attention now.  
The corners of the box still bug me though. I understand that it kind of has that ripple effect (where it comes to a point) from the material used (its not hard plastic) but i think that would drive me nuts.


I'm also not a huge fan of the excess black space of plastic above where the cover insert sits. Is there any way to trim that down closer to the edge of the outer sleeve?

The "points" as you call them are not very pronounced as they may appear in that picture. However it is the nature of the material. I obviously can not tell you what you like or dislike, but I have found that people looking at things in pictures on the internet are far more critical than when they actually see stuff in person. Now you may see these in person and still not like them, but my guess is that it may not bother you as much as you think it will. I guess if it really bothers you as much as you say, maybe it is not for you. As of right now they haven't gone on sale yet so you only have my opinion to take, which obviously would be considered bias by most people. Like I said after receiving the prototype if I would have thought the product had serious issues and/or was junk I would have not got them made. I have no interest in putting my name on something that I would consider to be an a bad product. There are already enough company's make cheap junk and they have the market cornered, I am not interested in joining them. I consider myself pretty critical of the products I sell or have sold.

The reason the sleeve doesn't go all the way up at the top is due to the rounded corner. If you went up any higher the pocket would not work correctly. The cover art pocket (unlike hard plastic) is actually sealed at the bottom. I personally really like this over the hard plastic style. That black gap at the top is about 1/6" from the end of the sleeve to the beginning of the seal. I am not sure why, maybe the angle, but it actually looks bigger in that picture than it does in real life. I may have to take some better pictures, those are of the prototype I originally received.

I hope I am not coming off as a salesmen. I don't want to sound like this case is the end-all-be-all. I think its a good case though. Yes I wish it was cheaper to make and hopefully in the future if there is enough interest I can work on the price. I did not come to this forum to try to sell anyone anything per. Its not that I don't want your money, of course, but I am a member of a lot of other retro gaming forums and I really don't like it when stores come to those forums and just try to sell stuff and really don't contribute anything. I leave all that kind of stuff for my FaceBook and Twitter. Its part of the reason I did not come here before, because the main reason would be to sell stuff. Once I saw that there were links coming from this forum I then came here and found this thread and decided to maybe answer some questions and concerns. I feel this may have been a mistake now, because I have received a lot of good input.
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June 07, 2013, 02:02:09 PM
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Also I will be seeing wiggy at the Cleveland show as stated before. It appears he is respected member here, I am sure he will give an honest opinion of them if he feels I have misrepresented anything.

Of course that's assuming he doesn't want that free Turbo EverDrive. ;D Kidding...kidding...
« Last Edit: June 07, 2013, 02:07:10 PM by StoneAgeGamer »

June 07, 2013, 02:34:37 PM
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Also I will be seeing wiggy at the Cleveland show as stated before. It appears he is respected member here, I am sure he will give an honest opinion of them if he feels I have misrepresented anything.

Of course that's assuming he doesn't want that free Turbo EverDrive. ;D Kidding...kidding...

Yeah I guess we can trust Wiggy...  :-\

June 07, 2013, 03:36:07 PM
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SAG, I hope your not getting discouraged/regretting your decision to have a chat with us here. I guess it's just that we've had a number of threads over the years discussing our "ideal" cases and just whats wrong with UGCs so I guess there's a lot of pent up input haha. We're case nerds man, this whole site is a monument to it!

June 07, 2013, 03:50:26 PM
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Also I will be seeing wiggy at the Cleveland show as stated before. It appears he is respected member here, I am sure he will give an honest opinion of them if he feels I have misrepresented anything.

Of course that's assuming he doesn't want that free Turbo EverDrive. ;D Kidding...kidding...

I'm not above accepting bribes ;)


Also I will be seeing wiggy at the Cleveland show as stated before. It appears he is respected member here, I am sure he will give an honest opinion of them if he feels I have misrepresented anything.

Of course that's assuming he doesn't want that free Turbo EverDrive. ;D Kidding...kidding...

Yeah I guess we can trust Wiggy...  :-\

I am not to be trusted :P

June 07, 2013, 04:13:13 PM
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I am not to be trusted :P

Well I trusted you once and did not backfire...

Altough the manuals would have been nice addition, but you gave up on the idea.
Maybe in the future with the book of maps when I finish capturing the stuff.

June 07, 2013, 05:18:45 PM
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I am not to be trusted :P

Well I trusted you once and did not backfire...

Altough the manuals would have been nice addition, but you gave up on the idea.
Maybe in the future with the book of maps when I finish capturing the stuff.

That would have been really cool, but man, that woulda killed me :(  Those things already took like a zillion hours to produce.


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