Author Topic: Cleaning? How Do You Do?  (Read 5002 times)

May 30, 2013, 07:22:01 PM
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Just be careful not to break the latches.

They're on the back half of the shell, which he's replacing anyway, so I say just snap em clean off ;)

Yeah, I got you. I just meant the little bits they hook onto on the front part of the cart. I just meant be careful not to damage those bits.  :)

Sorry, I'm really tired today, so my descriptive typing is completely shot. I've only got about 2 hours sleep in the last 48 hours. I feel completely broken... I'm a pussy I know... LOL.

Oh I thought you were talking about the thinner plastic part that holds the latches on the front half. That's what I'm afraid of snapping when I do this.

This. This is what I meant. Just listen to Wiggy, and try not to break those little bits the latches latch onto on the front part.
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May 31, 2013, 01:42:13 AM
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Got the tabs out, but now the bottom is so clamped tight that I can't turn it.  I'm afraid to try and snap the tabs... don't have a tool to do it with precision, afraid I will scratch or dent the front of the cart.  Any ideas on how to snap them? Or do I just need more brute strength to start turning this thing?


May 31, 2013, 02:23:41 AM
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Just be careful not to break the latches.

They're on the back half of the shell, which he's replacing anyway, so I say just snap em clean off ;)

Yeah, I got you. I just meant the little bits they hook onto on the front part of the cart. I just meant be careful not to damage those bits.  :)

Sorry, I'm really tired today, so my descriptive typing is completely shot. I've only got about 2 hours sleep in the last 48 hours. I feel completely broken... I'm a pussy I know... LOL.

Oh I thought you were talking about the thinner plastic part that holds the latches on the front half. That's what I'm afraid of snapping when I do this.

This. This is what I meant. Just listen to Wiggy, and try not to break those little bits the latches latch onto on the front part.

It's a tough thing to explain, sleep or no.

Now go get some!  That shit will fuck with your brain big time :(


Got the tabs out, but now the bottom is so clamped tight that I can't turn it.  I'm afraid to try and snap the tabs... don't have a tool to do it with precision, afraid I will scratch or dent the front of the cart.  Any ideas on how to snap them? Or do I just need more brute strength to start turning this thing?



I'm gonna grab a crappy dupe and try this myself. I'll see if you really need to break those tabs or not. Will report back ASAP.

May 31, 2013, 11:22:52 AM
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Got the tabs out, but now the bottom is so clamped tight that I can't turn it.  I'm afraid to try and snap the tabs... don't have a tool to do it with precision, afraid I will scratch or dent the front of the cart.  Any ideas on how to snap them? Or do I just need more brute strength to start turning this thing?



The hardest part is done.

Hold the game the right way up, look at the back then try twist the back piece to the left, in an unscrew motion. If the back hasn't been melted onto the front, you might be able to just unscrew the entire back from the front. Once you have enough space to access the tabs properly, use some pliers to break them off, it would likely make the job a hell of a lot easier.

If you can't do that then I can't see any other way than putting a dremel to it, then using pliers to break the melted bit front the front, just enough to try and get the screw out. Off the top of my head, I can't remember which way the chips face. Do they face to the front or back of the cart? If they face the back of the cart, be really fucking careful with the dremel.

Once that screw is out your good. You could then go tidy any melted bits left over with a file, if it really bothers you, just be careful not to damage the thread or the screw won't go back in properly. Just literally a few runs over to make it look alright.

SIDE NOTE: Is it strange that I want a game with the same problem as your, so I can fix it?

May 31, 2013, 12:19:20 PM
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Haha! Not that strange.  It's fun in it's own way to tinker.  Wiggy definitely understands this. 

I stopped when I got the tabs out last night because I thought if I started to turn it, the bottom would scratch the chip or something.  It's very tight down there anyway.  Hard to budge.  Pliers are a good idea.

May 31, 2013, 01:12:13 PM
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Haha! Not that strange.  It's fun in it's own way to tinker.  Wiggy definitely understands this.  

I stopped when I got the tabs out last night because I thought if I started to turn it, the bottom would scratch the chip or something.  It's very tight down there anyway.  Hard to budge.  Pliers are a good idea.

The bottom is stuck down tight? You reckon whoever owned it before used super glue? Is there any give at the bottom of the cart at all? Try prying the top of the cart open a little bit, then use a torch and look inside. If you see any white shit, the idiot used some kind of glue.
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May 31, 2013, 01:21:35 PM
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No I don't think it's glued.  I'm just saying from prying open the top, the bottom is now tighter.  I just stopped working on it because I thought when I started prying the bottom I might snap the top back in.  Or worse, snap something else on the front or the chip. I think I have a pair of needle nose pliers at home, I'll try to snap those clips off tonight.

May 31, 2013, 01:50:29 PM
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Could just be from the pressure of the tabs being out. Like a see-saw affect. Pull one side up, the other side goes down further.  Bar the screws there's nothing holding the bottom in place, and considering your cart is missing the bottom screws, then that's the only thing I imagine it could be. Try unscrewing the back of the cart like I said earlier. If it really can't move, then break those tabs off and try then.
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May 31, 2013, 03:08:54 PM
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Just did it with an extra copy of SMB1 and it worked great.  Just work on getting the PC board as soon as you can since it totally gets in the way.  The cart shell will take flex a lot before it fails it would seem.  

Also, this was inside of one of them. 




WTF?!  Bootleg SMB/DH?  Gonna go see what this is all about...
« Last Edit: May 31, 2013, 03:13:11 PM by wiggy »

May 31, 2013, 03:34:10 PM
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Just did it with an extra copy of SMB1 and it worked great.  Just work on getting the PC board as soon as you can since it totally gets in the way.  The cart shell will take flex a lot before it fails it would seem.  

Also, this was inside of one of them. 




WTF?!  Bootleg SMB/DH?  Gonna go see what this is all about...

LOL! That's pretty cool. The one on the left, the logo is slightly darker as well, or is that just the lighting?

May 31, 2013, 03:40:02 PM
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you might be suprised that those kind of chips are also in some copies of starfox..

i think it's official.

May 31, 2013, 04:20:42 PM
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Just did it with an extra copy of SMB1 and it worked great.  Just work on getting the PC board as soon as you can since it totally gets in the way.  The cart shell will take flex a lot before it fails it would seem.  

Also, this was inside of one of them. 


http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k99/wiggyx/null_zps9af1d49a.jpg~original

WTF?!  Bootleg SMB/DH?  Gonna go see what this is all about...

LOL! That's pretty cool. The one on the left, the logo is slightly darker as well, or is that just the lighting?

It's just the lighting.  The carts and labels are super identical.  I went over them both with a magnifying glass, seriously LOL!


you might be suprised that those kind of chips are also in some copies of starfox..

i think it's official.

It booted up SMB/DH just like any other SMB/DH cart.  I was hoping for a 52-in-1 or something :(  China outsource?  Never knew about this sort of thing if it is indeed legit.  May have to post on ol' Digipress to see what the folks over there know as well. 

May 31, 2013, 05:40:45 PM
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May 31, 2013, 10:14:59 PM
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Just did it with an extra copy of SMB1 and it worked great.  Just work on getting the PC board as soon as you can since it totally gets in the way.  The cart shell will take flex a lot before it fails it would seem.  

Also, this was inside of one of them. 


http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k99/wiggyx/null_zps9af1d49a.jpg~original

WTF?!  Bootleg SMB/DH?  Gonna go see what this is all about...

LOL! That's pretty cool. The one on the left, the logo is slightly darker as well, or is that just the lighting?

It's just the lighting.  The carts and labels are super identical.  I went over them both with a magnifying glass, seriously LOL!


you might be suprised that those kind of chips are also in some copies of starfox..

i think it's official.

It booted up SMB/DH just like any other SMB/DH cart.  I was hoping for a 52-in-1 or something :(  China outsource?  Never knew about this sort of thing if it is indeed legit.  May have to post on ol' Digipress to see what the folks over there know as well. 

I'm pretty sure it's official.  I had a few SMB/DH carts that had the same type of board in them while I was doing the custom NES sets a while back.  Had a SMB/DH game with each one so I went through about 20 or so of those carts and at least three had the boards like the left one.  Thought it kinda strange, but they booted the same as the others and the three carts came from three different sources when I acquired them, so either it's legit or someone was making a bunch of bootleg SMB/DH carts.
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June 01, 2013, 07:37:28 AM
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Maybe you cant cut or melt with a hot knife or a sharp metal the part where the melted screw is, just leaving 0.5 cm around that screw, that way you can take away the back part. Then with a  plier you can turn the screw to take it out. That way you don't damage the front and can change the back part.

If some one post these forget that i mention it  :P