Thoughts in my head about repo carts

[razielleonhart]

ok this has been bugging me for a long time i own some famicom games and i know Mother/Earthbound Zero has a repo cart. if i were to get Mother on the famicom could someone mod it to be in eng i feel that games from japan should be in the OG cart. also could it be done to other famicom/super famicom games i would like translated

[wiggy]

Nobody will touch EB typically.

[Dr.Agon]

Nobody will touch EB typically.

this is true for SNES 'earthbound' , but Famicom 'mother/earthbound zero' is fair game 'cos it never officially got a NES translation.
also, spoke to a repro maker about EB, he would do it if you made a hack...

ok this has been bugging me for a long time i own some famicom games and i know Mother/Earthbound Zero has a repo cart. if i were to get Mother on the famicom could someone mod it to be in eng i feel that games from japan should be in the OG cart. also could it be done to other famicom/super famicom games i would like translated

THEORETICALLY, all you'd need to do would be to swap the 'earthbound zero' chips into the 'mother' cart.
this would be true for any game, if it has a translation and can be repro'ed, get the repro and swap over the chips into the original cart.
swapping chips around COULD do some damage, SO TRY THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK!

[wiggy]

this is true for SNES 'earthbound' , but Famicom 'mother/earthbound zero' is fair game 'cos it never officially got a NES translation.
also, spoke to a repro maker about EB, he would do it if you made a hack...

The thing that's stupid about that is neother is any more or less legal to produce.  I don't know if it's more of a not polluting the legitimate market thing for most repro makers or not, but I do hear a lot of people preach about how fan subs and hacks are less illegal, which is garbage.

ok this has been bugging me for a long time i own some famicom games and i know Mother/Earthbound Zero has a repo cart. if i were to get Mother on the famicom could someone mod it to be in eng i feel that games from japan should be in the OG cart. also could it be done to other famicom/super famicom games i would like translated

THEORETICALLY, all you'd need to do would be to swap the 'earthbound zero' chips into the 'mother' cart.
this would be true for any game, if it has a translation and can be repro'ed, get the repro and swap over the chips into the original cart.
swapping chips around COULD do some damage, SO TRY THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK!

Or any other cart that'll do the job.  Repros don't at all require that you use a JP version of a game that you want to place a translation into.  There's absolutely no reason to use a mother 1 to do the job, and it won't make it any easier either if you did.  It's not a 'pluck old chip out, place new chip in affair' no matter what.

[Dr.Agon]

this is true for SNES 'earthbound' , but Famicom 'mother/earthbound zero' is fair game 'cos it never officially got a NES translation.
also, spoke to a repro maker about EB, he would do it if you made a hack...

The thing that's stupid about that is neither is any more or less legal to produce.  I don't know if it's more of a not polluting the legitimate market thing for most repro makers or not, but I do hear a lot of people preach about how fan subs and hacks are less illegal, which is garbage.

i think you've hit the nail on the head with this, but also i was told EB sort of fucks up if you try to repro/copy/hack it...

ok this has been bugging me for a long time i own some famicom games and i know Mother/Earthbound Zero has a repo cart. if i were to get Mother on the famicom could someone mod it to be in eng i feel that games from japan should be in the OG cart. also could it be done to other famicom/super famicom games i would like translated

THEORETICALLY, all you'd need to do would be to swap the 'earthbound zero' chips into the 'mother' cart.
this would be true for any game, if it has a translation and can be repro'ed, get the repro and swap over the chips into the original cart.
swapping chips around COULD do some damage, SO TRY THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK!

Or any other cart that'll do the job.  Repros don't at all require that you use a JP version of a game that you want to place a translation into.  There's absolutely no reason to use a mother 1 to do the job, and it won't make it any easier either if you did.  It's not a 'pluck old chip out, place new chip in' affair no matter what.

what?, surely its just that?, dont they use the same chips then?

[wiggy]

this is true for SNES 'earthbound' , but Famicom 'mother/earthbound zero' is fair game 'cos it never officially got a NES translation.
also, spoke to a repro maker about EB, he would do it if you made a hack...

The thing that's stupid about that is neither is any more or less legal to produce.  I don't know if it's more of a not polluting the legitimate market thing for most repro makers or not, but I do hear a lot of people preach about how fan subs and hacks are less illegal, which is garbage.

i think you've hit the nail on the head with this, but also i was told EB sort of fucks up if you try to repro/copy/hack it...

ok this has been bugging me for a long time i own some famicom games and i know Mother/Earthbound Zero has a repo cart. if i were to get Mother on the famicom could someone mod it to be in eng i feel that games from japan should be in the OG cart. also could it be done to other famicom/super famicom games i would like translated

THEORETICALLY, all you'd need to do would be to swap the 'earthbound zero' chips into the 'mother' cart.
this would be true for any game, if it has a translation and can be repro'ed, get the repro and swap over the chips into the original cart.
swapping chips around COULD do some damage, SO TRY THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK!

Or any other cart that'll do the job.  Repros don't at all require that you use a JP version of a game that you want to place a translation into.  There's absolutely no reason to use a mother 1 to do the job, and it won't make it any easier either if you did.  It's not a 'pluck old chip out, place new chip in' affair no matter what.

what?, surely its just that?, dont they use the same chips then?

I have also heard that EB like to fucks with hackers too.

Repros aren't a plug n play sort of deal typically.   You're either gonna use donor carts and flash chips, donor carts and TSOP chips, or like retrozone, custom boards and chipsets (which virtually nobody does because it's so cost prohibitive).    You don't NEED and original mother cart for the job, just one with a like chipset and whatnot.  There are only so many configurations of NES and SNES cart, so you only need to find compatible carts to do the job if going the donor route.

Why do you think I bought so many copies of NBA live 95 and 96 a few months back

[JDavis]

this is true for SNES 'earthbound' , but Famicom 'mother/earthbound zero' is fair game 'cos it never officially got a NES translation.

Actually, it did. NOA did a complete translation of the game, and then decided at the last minute not to publish it because it wouldn't make enough money now that the SNES was out. The Earthbound Zero rom everyone uses is not a fan translation, it's the official Nintendo translation dumped from a prototype cart and hacked to remove some anti-piracy measures (and add the word ZERO to the title screen)

[Arseen]

Repo attacks again.

@razielleonhart: Read PM

[wiggy]

this is true for SNES 'earthbound' , but Famicom 'mother/earthbound zero' is fair game 'cos it never officially got a NES translation.

Actually, it did. NOA did a complete translation of the game, and then decided at the last minute not to publish it because it wouldn't make enough money now that the SNES was out. The Earthbound Zero rom everyone uses is not a fan translation, it's the official Nintendo translation dumped from a prototype cart and hacked to remove some anti-piracy measures (and add the word ZERO to the title screen)

Never knew that

[Dr.Agon]

this is true for SNES 'earthbound' , but Famicom 'mother/earthbound zero' is fair game 'cos it never officially got a NES translation.

Actually, it did. NOA did a complete translation of the game, and then decided at the last minute not to publish it because it wouldn't make enough money now that the SNES was out. The Earthbound Zero rom everyone uses is not a fan translation, it's the official Nintendo translation dumped from a prototype cart and hacked to remove some anti-piracy measures (and add the word ZERO to the title screen)

see, this is why the internet rules!
never knew that, thats cool!
(stupid nintendo!)
also i wonder just how much that proto cost??

[BadChad]

Some repros actually require the original Famicom board to be made if there are no suitable donors in our US releases that could support its unique mappers. Fire Emblem and Fire Emblem: Gaiden are good examples of translations that require the original Famicom boards, and a good handful of Konami games too. And even then, there are still games that cant be done, even with the original Famicom board.

[Rx_79]

All of the earthbound stuff is covered by this guy Roo over at clan of the grey wolf.


http://clanofthegraywolf.com/hands-earth-bound-nes-prototype/

http://clanofthegraywolf.com/10/
&
http://clanofthegraywolf.com/11/

[razielleonhart]

really at the end of the day all i want is a copy of Mother in eng to play on my famicom