Author Topic: Retron 5 (aka 4)  (Read 10560 times)

July 03, 2013, 09:19:14 PM
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You can do some research by googling the model number and seeing if anybody's made any comments on the matter, but it's a fairly universal problem with HDTVs and it's not just the HDMI input but everything it's feeding in.

Some TVs will have a "gaming" setting that will turn off most of the post processing stuff to decrease the delay but they're almost never 100%. If they have a computer VGA or DVI port, they may use less post processing on those inputs than the others as well.

Having your system output at the TV's native resolution will also help, but this isn't always possible. Retro systems have no such settings, and many TV's actual native resolution isn't "standard" Most "720p" TVs, for example, are built with screens that are actually 1366x768 instead of 1280x720. 720p signal has to be resized up, adding delay. 1080i or p signal has to be resized down, adding delay.

Most modern games have enough give in their input timing that none of this is a big issue. Because the developers are well aware of it being a thing. Retro games that are expecting the nigh-instantaneousness of a CRT setup aren't as forgiving. And certain genres suffer even in modern games, namely the more timing-intensive stuff like tourney-level fighting games or rhythm games.

And that last note gives us our best way to really test how much delay your TV is adding... Rock Band 2 (and up). You see, to compensate for you TV's delay, Rockband is designed to counter-delay the video and audio. In the first game they had you play along to some visual and audio indicators (lights and metronome) to adjust the timing, and that's still an option in later games if you're using the original guitars. But starting with RB2, the upgraded guitars came with some built in microphones so the guitar can listen to the metronome on the TV and the game can adjust more precisely. The TV will add as much delay to the audio as it does to the video so that everything stays in sync, so the delay that Rock Band 2 detects between when it outputs the sound and when the guitar hears it is precise.

July 04, 2013, 03:36:06 AM
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Hyperkin is kinda on my shit list already as far as hardware goes, and not without good reason.

All I'm saying is that give them a chance with their bluetooth controller. YES, the Retron3 controller was quite awful (mostly because IR sensors for videogame controllers are a bad idea in of itself) but you can't judge their future products based on past products. I'm not saying champion the controller, but also don't prejudge it to be awful until you try it for yourself. 

Same goes for the system hardware itself.
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September 03, 2013, 04:13:22 AM
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I still haven't seen a release date and its the 3rd....

September 03, 2013, 06:00:46 AM
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it should be ready by Christmas

September 03, 2013, 07:31:48 AM
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it should be ready by Christmas

According to my Hyperkin Sales rep it should be out Late October.
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September 03, 2013, 05:36:45 PM
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previously they were going to have them by July...then August...so, I'm just being realistic at this point.

September 03, 2013, 05:52:02 PM
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previously they were going to have them by July...then August...so, I'm just being realistic at this point.

I would think that the "late October" date is legit. Hyperkin never announced a July or August date. I would know. As a vendor i have been hounding them since June for a date. The October time frame is the first official date i have heard from them. Previously they stated "shooting for end of Summer" but never provided an estimated date.

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September 03, 2013, 05:52:49 PM
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Oh, and i believe they have dropped the AV ports and are doing HDMI only. I believe this has something to do with PAL compatibility.
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September 18, 2013, 12:18:16 AM
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It seems that amazon is taking pre-orders for the retron 5 for anyone interested..

September 18, 2013, 04:17:37 AM
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Yep. I pre-ordered mine a couple days ago.  ;D
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September 19, 2013, 01:30:52 AM
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Yep. I pre-ordered mine a couple days ago.  ;D

Me too. What color did you get?

September 19, 2013, 12:01:21 PM
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Anyone know where Canadians can preorder one of these? I don't have any current affiliation with Hyperkin, so I doubt any of my partners will be sending me a review unit.

There was a preorder up on Amazon.com, but not Amazon.ca. Even if it was still up on Amazon.com, that's still useless as American Amazon sellers won't ship to Canada.
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September 19, 2013, 02:24:19 PM
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Anyone know where Canadians can preorder one of these? I don't have any current affiliation with Hyperkin, so I doubt any of my partners will be sending me a review unit.

There was a preorder up on Amazon.com, but not Amazon.ca. Even if it was still up on Amazon.com, that's still useless as American Amazon sellers won't ship to Canada.

Hello,

We will be carrying the system and will be shipping to Canada. We will list them on the Canada Amazon site as soon as they are released.
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September 19, 2013, 06:09:10 PM
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It's been confirmed for a December 10th release date for both North America and Europe. The Amazon listing should come back soon enough.

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EL MONTE, CA (SEPTEMBER 2013) – Hyperkin has set December 10, 2013 as the official release date for the RetroN 5. The RetroN 5 plays NES, SNES, Genesis and GBA cartridges all in one convenient console. The US release will coincide with the European release, with the MSRP set at $99.99 in the US and €89.99 in the European territories.

Hyperkin explains the delay in release was due to several key modifications made to the console shown at E3. The shell design was changed to allow for better ventilation, as well as accommodations to use the Sega Power Base Converter allowing users to play Master System cartridges on the console.

All versions of the RetroN 5 will come with an AC adapter with four variable head sockets to fit multiple regions with the voltage ranging from 110 to 240 volts.

Hyperkin also confirms that the release date of October 31, 2013 listed on Amazon was a placeholder, and that Amazon has been contacted to correct the release date.

“Retron 5 will be the most amazing classic game console.” said Steven Mar, Hyperkin’s Executive Director. “We thank everyone who has been patient and supportive of Hyperkin during development.”

For more information or media requests, please contact: media@hyperkin.com. Follow Hyperkin on Twitter and like their Facebook page for the latest news and information.
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September 20, 2013, 12:02:38 AM
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Try getting it from http://www.pnpgamesonline.com

I am local to them and I have my preorder through them =D