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Little Samson Reproduction questiion.
wiggy:
--- Quote from: Zeanhaven on April 25, 2013, 05:11:57 AM ---but to answer the question, its easy to make a little samson cart, it need a mmc3 (mapper 4) donor with 1x27c010 and 1x27c020, it takes actually the same thing to make a mother on the nes, tho i was tempted to make repro of the expensive carts for myself, tho it takes the fun out of hunting for games, tho so far i sold alot of zelda parallel worlds, on the back of the cart it's clearly marked its a repro game of a hack of zelda link to the past, tho not sure if collectors/retro players are stupid or something, some of them actually thought Parallel worlds was an original game..... if you have any questions on repro carts send me a pm, spend the last 5 months doing reaserch, (while juggling the fact im a new dad also) and im still on standbuy on a project arseen asked me, but i need to further my research on tsop chips...... (looks at arseen, im in trouble now arnt i?)
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This.
I share Madcrocsz's stance on repros; I'm all for unreleased/translated/ROM hacks, but not at all about retail repros. Mostly because of what Zeanhaven said. The only thing I enjoy more than the hunt is modifying crap. Taking that away would really suck a TON of the joy out of this hobby for me.
--- Quote from: Arseen on April 25, 2013, 08:29:00 AM ---I know some times people can be super buzy, like I still haven't had time to up one single easy scan of Genesis game.
Nope, you said it's gonna take time.
And you're only only one who has said that it might be possible...
[expects finish carts with in a week] 8)
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I'm still dying to see if those carts are possible as well!
mojoeskateco:
As someone who put out some serious cash to own a legit copy of Little Samson I would be annoyed if reproductions which were indistinguishable from a legit copy hit the market.
First off I will say that I don't care if the value of the game drops to less that what I paid. I have a budget for collecting that I stick to so the money isn't a big deal. If Samson got a 3ds remake and it dropped the market value of the game so be it.
I just think it would wreck the collector market and the fun of the hobby if there was an added burden of trying to figure out if what you are buying is real or not.
Also, like others have said, the thrill of the hunt would be diminished and if you did find a copy in the wild how do you know if it's official or not?
If someone wants to experience the game on the original hardware (which I totally get) they can:
1. get one of those retrozone power pack things
2. look for an international version which may be cheaper as there is not much text in the game and acquire an international system or get a converter
3. I would support a repro if the fact that it was a repro was marked on the shell, the inside of the cart, and on the label, and the label had different art work than the retail release
As others have stated, I'd prefer repros be limited to games that were not released here (North America) especially for text heavy games such as RPGs where understanding the dialogue in the game is necessary to complete it.
BadChad:
If anything, I would say if you really had to have a "Little Samson" repro just to play it on real hardware, why not just make it a repro of the japanese version "Lickle" (which is still pretty expensive). Then it would CLEARLY be recognizable as a repro since it was only titled "Lickle" in japan, and there would be no bullshit/confusion involved.
Both versions of the game are still the same and there really is no text anyway. Plus a repro maker would most likely feel more comfortable building you a Lickle reproduction over a Little Samson anyway because there would be no risk factor involved if someone ever tried to abuse it somehow by selling or whatever. And you wont be so frowned upon for getting a repro of the game either because no one ever really seems to care when you get a repro of a Japanese game. Its when you start making repros of games that were officially released in the US that you start striking nerves.
It would be a good alternative that could make everyone happy and more comfortable at the end of the day. The same could also be done for Panic Restaurant if you go with a repro of the english translation of the japanese version "Chef Cookie in Gourmet World".
Polygon:
As much as I would love to own Little Samson, I will never pay what people are asking for it. The idea of being able to buy it as a reproduction is appealing to me for that reason. However, I share the sentiment in this thread that it's not a good idea, and shouldn't be done. Instead I'll wait to see if the bottom ever falls out and prices come down on games like Little Samson.
madrocsz:
--- Quote from: Polygon on April 25, 2013, 12:01:41 PM ---As much as I would love to own Little Samson, I will never pay what people are asking for it. The idea of being able to buy it as a reproduction is appealing to me for that reason. However, I share the sentiment in this thread that it's not a good idea, and shouldn't be done. Instead I'll wait to see if the bottom ever falls out and prices come down on games like Little Samson.
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I think the market will level out some but don't feel value on certain games will be affected as much simply due to them being a bit more uncommon and people that pick them up for collecting purposes tend to keep them in the collection which in turn means less copies floating around.
Just look at how much these games have went up. For any of those who watch the game chasers, just a few years ago they found both flintstones and little samson (which maybe the spike in prices are due to their popularity) and at the time the values were 1/5 what they are now give or take